Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Post by Richard Fairhur » Tue, 03 Jun 1997 04:00:00




> > A Speccy emulator was once reviewed in AA (from some firm called
> > Betasoft), but no-one I know admits to having seen it...

> Isn't that the one I just mentioned? Or did I get the name wrong?

No idea. Mr Forrester, can you shed any light on this beastie?

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Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Post by Brian Wats » Tue, 03 Jun 1997 04:00:00







> > :
> > : >I was thinking "comp.8bit.flamewar", then we could ask the Amstrad mob
> > : >over as well! =-)
> > :
> > : Why bother ? I think Andrew Cadley's been doing a sterling job as it
> is. :-)
> > :
> > : Besides, what about all the BBC and Atari 8bit owners too. Oh, and MSX.

> Was everyone aware that a speccy emulator existed on the Amstrad CPC? It
> was called ZXEmu and unlike the C64 version it could habdle m/code as well
> as basic. It only did 16K though.

> > Shall I start an "Amstad CPC-464 emulation ?"-thread?

> Is this what you had in mind?

> Andy

I think my son Rob got hold of this, but gave up when he couldn't get past
the Spectrum screen. The keying seemed bizarre in the extreme. I'll go
through the discs he left when he went of to uni and see if it's still
there.
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Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Post by Brian Ga » Wed, 04 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Did not Andy Wright write the CPC/Spevccy thing?

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Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Post by Martijn van Bu » Wed, 04 Jun 1997 04:00:00


:
:



: > :
: > : >I was thinking "comp.8bit.flamewar", then we could ask the Amstrad mob
: > : >over as well! =-)
: > :
: > : Why bother ? I think Andrew Cadley's been doing a sterling job as it
: is. :-)
: > :
: > : Besides, what about all the BBC and Atari 8bit owners too. Oh, and MSX.
: >
:
: Was everyone aware that a speccy emulator existed on the Amstrad CPC? It
: was called ZXEmu and unlike the C64 version it could habdle m/code as well
: as basic. It only did 16K though.
:  
: > Shall I start an "Amstad CPC-464 emulation ?"-thread?
:
: Is this what you had in mind?
Euhmm... Not really, but we'll see :) (I'm missing the C64 part here ;)

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Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Post by Damien Bur » Wed, 04 Jun 1997 04:00:00


On 2 Jun 1997 17:54:11 GMT, "Andrew Cadley"


>Was everyone aware that a speccy emulator existed on the Amstrad CPC? It
>was called ZXEmu and unlike the C64 version it could habdle m/code as well
>as basic. It only did 16K though.

Blimey. Make that *53* Speccy emulators in existence then.
Sigh... if anyone has a copy of this I'd be fascinated to learn
more and add a proper entry to the next release of the Spectrum
FAQ.
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Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Post by Andrew Cadle » Wed, 04 Jun 1997 04:00:00





> :
> :



> : > Shall I start an "Amstad CPC-464 emulation ?"-thread?
> :
> : Is this what you had in mind?
> Euhmm... Not really, but we'll see :) (I'm missing the C64 part here ;)

Ah, well I thought I'd just try and start it off the same way as the other
one did. I suppose what you really need is a few rather excessively strong
statements against the other machines for everyone to argue back against.

Okay then, the CPC had better graphics than *any* other 8 bit from a
comparable period. It rocked along with a faster processor, *and*
exceptionaly pretty pictures. Sound came from it's loverly AY sound chip
and didn't sound anywhere near as course as the C64's crappy SID chip or
that *stunning* beep known to emit from a spaccy.

I mean, for heavens sake, C64 and Speccy owners can be often found arguing
over who can get the least attribute clash in there 8*8 pixel blocks. ;-)
How any computer with 'attribute' methods of getting colour can ever be
taken seriously I don't know.

Not to mention that we had a *decent* floppy drive or cassette deck with no
fiddly volume controls.

I can't *believe* anyone still programs anything other than shite demos for
the speccy or C64 because that's all the two rubbishy pieces of *are
any good for, if you happen to like demos that get e*d about 16 colours
in a character square or scrolling.

You lot are all a bunch of sad losers for *actually* defending those
overated pieces of junk.

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Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Post by Damien Bur » Wed, 04 Jun 1997 04:00:00


On 3 Jun 1997 17:51:20 GMT, "Andrew Cadley"


>--
>Well, there's got to be something there someone should disagree with. :-)

Sure is. Your sig separator needs a space after it.

:)
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Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Post by Brian Wats » Wed, 04 Jun 1997 04:00:00




Quote:> Ah, well I thought I'd just try and start it off the same way as the other
> one did. I suppose what you really need is a few rather excessively strong
> statements against the other machines for everyone to argue back against.

> Okay then, the CPC had better graphics than *any* other 8 bit from a
> comparable period. It rocked along with a faster processor, *and*
> exceptionaly pretty pictures. Sound came from it's loverly AY sound chip
> and didn't sound anywhere near as course as the C64's crappy SID chip or
> that *stunning* beep known to emit from a spaccy.

> I mean, for heavens sake, C64 and Speccy owners can be often found arguing
> over who can get the least attribute clash in there 8*8 pixel blocks. ;-)
> How any computer with 'attribute' methods of getting colour can ever be
> taken seriously I don't know.

> Not to mention that we had a *decent* floppy drive or cassette deck with no
> fiddly volume controls.

> I can't *believe* anyone still programs anything other than shite demos for
> the speccy or C64 because that's all the two rubbishy pieces of *are
> any good for, if you happen to like demos that get e*d about 16 colours
> in a character square or scrolling.

> You lot are all a bunch of sad losers for *actually* defending those
> overated pieces of junk.

> Andy
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> Well, there's got to be something there someone should disagree with. :-)

Nope, sounds good to me.

I trust you have posted copies to the principal Commodore and Spectrum
newsgroups?
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Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Post by Jaso » Thu, 05 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Andrew "too much caffeine" Cadley:

Quote:> You lot are all a bunch of sad losers for *actually* defending those
> overated pieces of junk.

That's funny, most of the Amstrad users I know IRL will resort to this
when someone points out that they sold an awful lot less units... =-)

Quote:> Well, there's got to be something there someone should disagree with. :-)

You're starting to take this a bit seriously, ain't you?
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Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Post by Richard Fairhur » Thu, 05 Jun 1997 04:00:00



> Andrew "too much caffeine" Cadley:
> > You lot are all a bunch of sad losers for *actually* defending those
> > overated pieces of junk.
> That's funny, most of the Amstrad users I know IRL will resort to this
> when someone points out that they sold an awful lot less units... =-)

Actually, most of us just retort that Rick Astley was a chart-topper
once as well... :-)

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Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Post by Spik » Thu, 05 Jun 1997 04:00:00


: Ah, well I thought I'd just try and start it off the same way as the other
: one did. I suppose what you really need is a few rather excessively strong
: statements against the other machines for everyone to argue back against.
:
: Okay then, the CPC had better graphics than *any* other 8 bit from a
: comparable period. It rocked along with a faster processor, *and*
: exceptionaly pretty pictures.

Better even than the Atari 400/600/800?
Better than the Enterprise 64/128???

: I mean, for heavens sake, C64 and Speccy owners can be often found arguing
: over who can get the least attribute clash in there 8*8 pixel blocks. ;-)
: How any computer with 'attribute' methods of getting colour can ever be
: taken seriously I don't know.

How any computer with a built in tape-drive can be taken seriously.....

: Not to mention that we had a *decent* floppy drive or cassette deck with no
: fiddly volume controls.

Not to mention that our fiddly volume controls allowed our tape interfaces
to be much more tolerant to bad copies.....

AND we didn't have to sent the whole computer back for repair when the tape
broke.

: I can't *believe* anyone still programs anything other than shite demos for
: the speccy or C64 because that's all the two rubbishy pieces of *are
: any good for, if you happen to like demos that get e*d about 16 colours
: in a character square or scrolling.

WOO PEE DO.
Flame wars are only going to incite flames if they are started with a
modicum of subtlety....

Something you appear to lack.

: You lot are all a bunch of sad losers for *actually* defending those
: overated pieces of junk.

Nice try, but it doesn't work like that.

: Well, there's got to be something there someone should disagree with. :-)

Yep, but flame-bait isn't the same.....
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Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Post by Damien Bur » Fri, 06 Jun 1997 04:00:00




>Actually, most of us just retort that Rick Astley was a chart-topper
>once as well... :-)

Because CPC owners bought his records, and nobody else?
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Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Post by Spik » Fri, 06 Jun 1997 04:00:00


: Blimey. Make that *53* Speccy emulators in existence then.
: Sigh... if anyone has a copy of this I'd be fascinated to learn
: more and add a proper entry to the next release of the Spectrum
: FAQ.

Make that 54. I know for a fact that the Enterprise had a Speccy emulator
for it. (I've seen it working...)
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Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Post by Spik » Sat, 07 Jun 1997 04:00:00



:
: >Actually, most of us just retort that Rick Astley was a chart-topper
: >once as well... :-)
:
: Because CPC owners bought his records, and nobody else?

OOOOO!
Cat fight! CAT FIGHT!!!!

Meow....
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Spectrum Emulator for CPC WAS: Spectrum Emulator for C64

Post by Damien Bur » Sun, 15 Jun 1997 04:00:00




Quote:>Make that 54. I know for a fact that the Enterprise had a Speccy emulator
>for it. (I've seen it working...)

Prove it, and I'll add that to the FAQ too :)

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1. Spectrum Emulator for C64



Ah, but the point I was making is that on a CPC you could easily add
commands to BASIC, it was just a case of setting a pointer to the command
name and calling one of the firmware routines, you didn't need to write
complex routines to patch it into the OS. In the case of ROM based routines
it was actually automatically added at startup.

ROM's can be an EPROM programmed by yourself so commands could be as
complex as you required and the algorithms used were, of course, your own
choice.

RSX's (as they were known) didn't require tokens so you could add as many
as you wanted, I assume this was not the case on the C64.

Andy

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