3 or 9 Internet NTP servers?

3 or 9 Internet NTP servers?

Post by Richard L Jackson » Wed, 31 Mar 1993 04:36:14



Hi,

I am a newbie to NTP.  I am setting up three NTP primary servers, per
DEC/Ultrix recommendation, for George Mason University gmu.edu domain.

Does each primary server have three different Internet NTP servers
as peer or do they use the same.  That is, will I be using 9 (3x3)
Internet NTP servers (stratum 1 or 2) or 3?

The DEC documentation says:
"If your site is connected to the Internet, you should configure three
(but no more than three) NTP primary servers at your site that
synchronize to three highly accurate (stratum 1 or stratum 2) hosts on
the Internet."

I may be having a brain fart, but this seems ambiguous.  Does
each local NTP primary server use three different Internet servers or
the same three?

BTW, we have several hundred workstations on campus.

Regards,
Richard Jackson
George Mason University

 
 
 

3 or 9 Internet NTP servers?

Post by Rick Thom » Sat, 03 Apr 1993 15:53:59


^% The DEC documentation says:
^% "If your site is connected to the Internet, you should configure three
^% (but no more than three) NTP primary servers at your site that
^% synchronize to three highly accurate (stratum 1 or stratum 2) hosts on
^% the Internet."
^%
^% I may be having a brain fart, but this seems ambiguous.  Does
^% each local NTP primary server use three different Internet servers or
^% the same three?

Well, one way of doing it is to have 3 onsite primaries (stratum 3, say)
connected to 4 offsite servers (stratum 2, say) as follows

onsite-1 is client of offsite-a, offsite-b, offsite-c,
        and peer to onsite-2, onsite-3
onsite-2 is client of offsite-a, offsite-b, offsite-d,
        and peer to onsite-1, onsite-3
onsite-3 is client of offsite-b, offsite-c, offsite-d,
        and peer to onsite-1, onsite-2

This spreads your load around and gives you a little extra redundancy, but
not enough to cause severe confusion.  Peering onsites with fellow-onsites
makes sure you get consistent time amongst them.

Enjoy!

Rick

 
 
 

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Scenario:
Busy setting up NTP between two Digital Alpha machines.  One is running
VMS(with tcp ware) the other Digital Unix (3.2D-1).  General consensus
seems to want to make the VMS Alpha machine the time server (It is setup
in a 5 machine VMS cluster - quite reliable)

Advice needed:
If I use one of the Internet Servers recommended for timekeeping such as
bitsy.mit.edu, utcnist.microsoft.com,etc  What will the effect be on my
host(VMS Alpha) which is acting as a client to these Internet servers
(and as a server to other hosts on my local network), if the network
congestion becomes a little heavy and my server cannot connect or
receive ntp packets or data (times out for a few minutes) from those
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Also do you know what sort of impact it will in turn have on the clients
of my local host/server (such as the Dig Unix Alpha server)?

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servers or rather to designate a local host on your network to keep
time.

Promise I will summarize!
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