Upgrade from emacs 19.28/GNUS 4.1? Upgrade to what?

Upgrade from emacs 19.28/GNUS 4.1? Upgrade to what?

Post by Francesco Potort » Thu, 18 Jan 1996 04:00:00



The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted as well.

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted as well.


     I'm running emacs 19.28 (Fri Feb 3 1995) and GNUS 4.1 on BSD/OS
   v2.0.1.  Is there sufficient reason, in your opinion, for me to
   upgrade to a later version of emacs and/or GNUS?

I'd wait for some weeks (possibly much less) and wait for 19.31 to be
out, then use gnus 5 that is shipped with it.  19.31 should introduce
nothing new, but fix many bugs over 19.30.
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Upgrade from emacs 19.28/GNUS 4.1? Upgrade to what?

Post by Robin Stephens » Thu, 18 Jan 1996 04:00:00


  I'm running emacs 19.28 (Fri Feb 3 1995) and GNUS 4.1 on BSD/OS
v2.0.1.  Is there sufficient reason, in your opinion, for me to
upgrade to a later version of emacs and/or GNUS?
  Which versions of emacs/GNUS are stable? - I notice from a couple of
weeks scanning gnu.emacs.gnus that there seem to be rather a lot of
changes being made.  I don't want to have to install patches all the
time, but I don't mind doing a `once-only' (until the next time)
upgrade.  When will the current rapid development slow down?  Is it
worth waiting?
  I haven't got a great deal invested in libraries, .emacs files,
etc., so incompatibility with those isn't really a problem.  I'd quite
like to keep my .newsrc though (so I don't have to go through the
agony of unsubscribing from the 10e6 crappy newsgroups I don't want to
read).
  A final question - I have trouble with making email work from emacs.
I realiase this is rather vague, but if you're using the same version
of emacs on the same platform perhaps you could drop me a line?
  I've crossposted this to a couple of other emacs places, as I
thought it had relevance.  Sorry in advance if I've slipped up.
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Upgrade from emacs 19.28/GNUS 4.1? Upgrade to what?

Post by Per Abrahams » Sat, 20 Jan 1996 04:00:00


RS>   I'm running emacs 19.28 (Fri Feb 3 1995) and GNUS 4.1 on BSD/OS
RS> v2.0.1.  Is there sufficient reason, in your opinion, for me to
RS> upgrade to a later version of emacs and/or GNUS?

YES!

RS>   Which versions of emacs/GNUS are stable?

Upgrade to Emacs 19.30 which is bundled with Gnus and is the most
stable Emacs/Gnus combination ever.

RS> I notice from a couple of
RS> weeks scanning gnu.emacs.gnus that there seem to be rather a lot of
RS> changes being made.  I don't want to have to install patches all the
RS> time, but I don't mind doing a `once-only' (until the next time)
RS> upgrade.  When will the current rapid development slow down?  Is it
RS> worth waiting?

There are two kind of Gnus versions, alpha versions with names like
`(ding) Gnus', `September Gnus', and `Red Gnus', and production
versions with names like `Gnus 5.0.13' and `Gnus 5.1'.  Stay away from
the alpha releases -- unless you want to help debugging -- and use the
production versions.  The production versions are only released after
a long testing period where no new features are added.

RS>   I haven't got a great deal invested in libraries, .emacs files,
RS> etc., so incompatibility with those isn't really a problem.  I'd quite
RS> like to keep my .newsrc though (so I don't have to go through the
RS> agony of unsubscribing from the 10e6 crappy newsgroups I don't want to
RS> read).

Gnus 5 will use your old `.newsrc' and `.newsrc.el' files.  It no
longer subscribes new users to everything, only a few selected groups.

 
 
 

Upgrade from emacs 19.28/GNUS 4.1? Upgrade to what?

Post by Patricia Hawki » Thu, 25 Jan 1996 04:00:00


RS>   I'm running emacs 19.28 (Fri Feb 3 1995) and GNUS 4.1 on BSD/OS
RS> v2.0.1.  Is there sufficient reason, in your opinion, for me to
RS> upgrade to a later version of emacs and/or GNUS?

I'm running GNUS 5.013 on emacs 19.28, and it works fine.  

RS>   Which versions of emacs/GNUS are stable? - I notice from a couple of
RS> weeks scanning gnu.emacs.gnus that there seem to be rather a lot of
RS> changes being made.  I don't want to have to install patches all the
RS> time, but I don't mind doing a `once-only' (until the next time)
RS> upgrade.  When will the current rapid development slow down?  Is it
RS> worth waiting?

It's always like this.  I figure the time to upgrade emacs is when the
really nice packages you want to have won't work with your current
version of emacs, or the core emacs has something you really want.
I read comp.emacs occasionally, and see if there's something that does
something I really want.  (And also when you have time to explore all
the new features.)

I do recommend the newer GNUS.  I really like the variety of things you
can do to threads, such as catchup or kill by a marked region.  Score
files seem interesting too, haven't played with them much yet.

The info is cryptic, I wish it had examples.  Anyone want to post their
GNUS setup stuff?

--
Patricia Hawkins
Burlington, MA, USA

 
 
 

Upgrade from emacs 19.28/GNUS 4.1? Upgrade to what?

Post by Luis Fernand » Fri, 26 Jan 1996 04:00:00


;;; -*- Lisp -*-
;;; gnus 5.0 customizations

;;; Customize summary buffer to show userids rather than names (since
;;; I know people by their uids)
(setq gnus-summary-line-format "%U%R%X %I%[%(%4L: %-20,20A%)] %s\n"

          ;; customize the group-buffer display
      gnus-group-line-format "%M%S%5N: %(%G%) %z\n"

          ;; In the modeline for the summary buffer, just show the
          ;; newgroup (shortened version) and the number of unread
          ;; articles
      gnus-summary-mode-line-format "%g %Z -- "

          ;; Here's a neat trick: display the subject in the article-buffer-
          ;; mode-line and save one line in the article buffer itself
      gnus-article-mode-line-format "%S -- "

          gnus-summary-default-interest 4       ;eh...
          gnus-use-long-file-name t                     ;I hate hierarcies of dirs
          gnus-use-cache t                                      ;save articles marked unread, forever
          gnus-use-generic-from "ee.ryerson.ca"       ;don't want hostname to appear

          ;; when following-up, ask whether a copy of the message should
          ;; be sent to the poster
          gnus-auto-mail-to-author 'ask

          ;; new newsgroups are added to the top of the .newsrc
          gnus-subscribe-newsgroup-method 'gnus-subscribe-alphabetically

          ;; don't pad the summary-buffer mode-line with spaces because I
          ;; also display the date and time in the mode-line
          gnus-mode-non-string-length nil

          ;; force xv into 8bit mode and auto-place the view-window when
          ;; displaying gifs and jpgs (with posibly UPPERCASE filenames)
          gnus-uu-user-view-rules (list '("\\.\\([Gg][Ii][Ff]\\|[Jj][Pp][Gg]\\)$" "xv -8 -geom -1-1 %s"))

          ;; Welcome to the Dark Side
          gnus-button-url 'gnus-netscape-open-url      

                ;so we don't get double headers when following-up with
                ;inclusion
          news-reply-header-hook nil

          ;;run viewers in the background so we can continuing doing stuff
          ;;in emacs
          gnus-view-pseudo-asynchronously t)

;;; Which headers we ant to see...the Newsgroup header only shows up
;;; if the article has been posted to more than one newsgroup
;;; (someone from the ding-list posted this trick)
(setq gnus-visible-headers
          "^From:\\|^Newsgroups:.+[,]+.*$\\|^Date:\\|^To:\\|^Organization:\\|Keywords:\\|X-Moderator-Review:")

;;; Don't auto-select first article if reading sources, or archives or
;;; jobs postings, etc. and just display the summary buffer
(add-hook 'gnus-select-group-hook
          (function
           (lambda ()
             (cond ((string-match "sources" gnus-newsgroup-name)
                    (setq gnus-auto-select-first nil))
                           ((string-match "jobs" gnus-newsgroup-name)
                                (setq gnus-auto-select-first nil))
                   ((string-match "comp\\.archives" gnus-newsgroup-name)
                    (setq gnus-auto-select-first nil))
                   ((string-match "reviews" gnus-newsgroup-name)
                    (setq gnus-auto-select-first nil))
                   ((string-match "announce" gnus-newsgroup-name)
                    (setq gnus-auto-select-first nil))
                   ((string-match "binaries" gnus-newsgroup-name)
                    (setq gnus-auto-select-first nil))
                   (t
                    (setq gnus-auto-select-first t))))))

(cond (window-system
           (require 'gnus-vis)
           (setq gnus-cite-face-list 'light)))

;;;if you like clicking all over the place to get stuff done
;(setq gnus-carpal t)

;;; hiliting citations
(add-hook 'gnus-article-display-hook 'gnus-article-highlight)
(remove-hook 'gnus-article-display-hook 'gnus-article-maybe-highlight)

;;; I forget what this does
;;;(cond (window-system
;;;        (setq gnus-visual-summary-highlight
;;;                      '(((> score (+ default 1)) . font-lock-comment-face)
;;;                        ((> score default) . font-lock-keyword-face)
;;;                        ((< score default) . grey50)))))

;;; scoring a kill for article with massive cross-post
;  ("xref: [^:\n]:[^:\n]*:[^:\n]*:[^:\n]*:[^:\n]*:[^:\n]*:[^:\n]*:" -8 nil r)

 
 
 

Upgrade from emacs 19.28/GNUS 4.1? Upgrade to what?

Post by John J. McDonou » Tue, 30 Jan 1996 04:00:00


   The info is cryptic, I wish it had examples.  Anyone want to post their
   GNUS setup stuff?

It would be especially useful (to me) to see some more examples of how
articles are 'scored'.  I'm not much of a lisp person, so what little
is in the docs is pretty opaque.

--McD
--

--McD

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1. Trying to compile emacs 19.28 on Solaris and getting errors

Hello. I have ftped emacs 19.28 from prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu and tried to
compile and it got this error message. This is the platform I am on: SunOS
5.4 sun4m sparc. What can I do to make this program compile right? Please
respond via email. Thank you.

Producing `src/paths.h' from `src/paths.h.in'.
cd lib-src; make all  \
  CC='gcc' CFLAGS='-g ' CPPFLAGS='' \
  LDFLAGS='' MAKE='make'
make[1]: Entering directory `/amd/rucs2/user/disk11a/ibelooze/emacs/emacs-19.28/lib-src'
gcc -Xs  -Demacs -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../src -I/home/ibelooze/emacs/emacs-19.28/lib-src -I/home/ibelooze/ema\
cs/emacs-19.28/lib-src/../src   -g  -o test-distrib /home/ibelooze/emacs/emacs-19.28/lib-src/test-distrib.c
gcc: unrecognized option `-Xs'
gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cpp': No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [test-distrib] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/amd/rucs2/user/disk11a/ibelooze/emacs/emacs-19.28/lib-src'
make: *** [lib-src] Error 2

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