Very Computer

by **Roger S** » Sun, 09 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Although the entire site is not yet finished, I am running into a strange
problem that I feel is something on the client computer - UNFORTUNATELY,
it's happening on MY CLIENT's computer! When I am working in FP2000 - OR
viewing the pages either from my hard drive or the actualy web site
(http://www.soltropical.com) on either of my two machines (W98 and an NT
Server) or on my clients "other" workstation, it looks just like I designed!
But when my client from his Gateway Pentium200 (32MB RAM, good video card
and 17" monitor) or my downstairs neigbor view the pages over my LAN or
directly at the web site, everything is badly scrambled. The vertical
navigation bar appears twice, one of which overlays HORIZONTALLY accross
text and graphics and the correct vertical nav bar is splotchy (can't
describe it any better in 50 words or less). I've been searching M/S's
knowledgebase and every newsgroup I can find but so far can't find any
explanation. Figure it's gotta be some feature in FP2000 that won't work
correctly with some video drivers since both of my computers AND my client's
Gateway are running IE5.01 - same build number! Mine works fine - his is
screwed!

Anybody have a clue what is causing this???? My biggest problem is he is
anything but a tekkie and is convinced I did something to sabotage him...
and he owes me a BUNCH of money right now!!!! HEEELLLLPPPPPP !!!!!!!!!

Roger Shumaker
BAREFOOT COMPUTING

by **Tom Peppe** » Sun, 09 Jul 2000 04:00:00

You didn't say what browser he was using, so I checked IE and NS. Your
problem is NS, which doesn't like some of the features you've used, that are
not compatible with it. Run the page through a validator such as
www.websitegarage.com to see what code is causing your scramble.

--

Tom Pepper
Old Fuddy Duddy
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>Although the entire site is not yet finished, I am running into a strange
>problem that I feel is something on the client computer - UNFORTUNATELY,
>it's happening on MY CLIENT's computer! When I am working in FP2000 - OR
>viewing the pages either from my hard drive or the actualy web site
>(http://www.soltropical.com) on either of my two machines (W98 and an NT
>Server) or on my clients "other" workstation, it looks just like I
designed!
>But when my client from his Gateway Pentium200 (32MB RAM, good video card
>and 17" monitor) or my downstairs neigbor view the pages over my LAN or
>directly at the web site, everything is badly scrambled. The vertical
>navigation bar appears twice, one of which overlays HORIZONTALLY accross
>text and graphics and the correct vertical nav bar is splotchy (can't
>describe it any better in 50 words or less). I've been searching M/S's
>knowledgebase and every newsgroup I can find but so far can't find any
>explanation. Figure it's gotta be some feature in FP2000 that won't work
>correctly with some video drivers since both of my computers AND my
client's
>Gateway are running IE5.01 - same build number! Mine works fine - his is
>screwed!

>Anybody have a clue what is causing this???? My biggest problem is he is
>anything but a tekkie and is convinced I did something to sabotage him...
>and he owes me a BUNCH of money right now!!!! HEEELLLLPPPPPP !!!!!!!!!

>Roger Shumaker
>BAREFOOT COMPUTING

by **Stanley L. Moor** » Sun, 09 Jul 2000 04:00:00

> Although the entire site is not yet finished, I am running into a
strange
> problem that I feel is something on the client computer -
UNFORTUNATELY,
> it's happening on MY CLIENT's computer! When I am working in FP2000 -
OR
> viewing the pages either from my hard drive or the actualy web site
> (http://www.soltropical.com) on either of my two machines (W98 and an
NT
> Server) or on my clients "other" workstation, it looks just like I
designed!
> But when my client from his Gateway Pentium200 (32MB RAM, good video
card
> and 17" monitor) or my downstairs neigbor view the pages over my LAN
or
> directly at the web site, everything is badly scrambled. The vertical
> navigation bar appears twice, one of which overlays HORIZONTALLY
accross
> text and graphics and the correct vertical nav bar is splotchy (can't
> describe it any better in 50 words or less). I've been searching M/S's
> knowledgebase and every newsgroup I can find but so far can't find any
> explanation. Figure it's gotta be some feature in FP2000 that won't
work
> correctly with some video drivers since both of my computers AND my
client's
> Gateway are running IE5.01 - same build number! Mine works fine - his
is
> screwed!

> Anybody have a clue what is causing this???? My biggest problem is he
is
> anything but a tekkie and is convinced I did something to sabotage
him...
> and he owes me a BUNCH of money right now!!!! HEEELLLLPPPPPP !!!!!!!!!

> Roger Shumaker
> BAREFOOT COMPUTING

Tell him to look at it with IE rather than NN. It is scrambled in
Navigator but OK in IE5. The music plays in IE not in NN and the hit
counter does not appear in NN. Also the red sun logo points to a file
on your hard drive (//G:...). I think part of the problem lies with in
line styles which NN does not like. Also I would put my waterfall
graphic and the text in separate cells of a table as this would help to
keep them from displaying on top of each other.

by PZ » Sun, 09 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On your first page your image line looks like this:
<p style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: -13; padding-right: 25"><img
border="0" src="images/wfall1.JPG" width="250" height="349"></p>

Change it to:
<img src="wfall1.jpg" width="250" height="349" border="0" alt="waterfall">

This will fix where the text is located (on top of the image in Netscape).

I'd strongly suggest you download Netscape 4.6 or higher and test as you're
writing so you can see where the problems are right away. To fix a site after
it's done and somewhat messed-up takes way too much time.

Btw, don't use capital letters in your images, not even the extensions. If you
look above you have caps on .JPG, on some servers your image may not show up at
all.

Pat

> Although the entire site is not yet finished, I am running into a strange
> problem that I feel is something on the client computer - UNFORTUNATELY,
> it's happening on MY CLIENT's computer! When I am working in FP2000 - OR
> viewing the pages either from my hard drive or the actualy web site
> (http://www.soltropical.com) on either of my two machines (W98 and an NT
> Server) or on my clients "other" workstation, it looks just like I designed!
> But when my client from his Gateway Pentium200 (32MB RAM, good video card
> and 17" monitor) or my downstairs neigbor view the pages over my LAN or
> directly at the web site, everything is badly scrambled. The vertical
> navigation bar appears twice, one of which overlays HORIZONTALLY accross
> text and graphics and the correct vertical nav bar is splotchy (can't
> describe it any better in 50 words or less). I've been searching M/S's
> knowledgebase and every newsgroup I can find but so far can't find any
> explanation. Figure it's gotta be some feature in FP2000 that won't work
> correctly with some video drivers since both of my computers AND my client's
> Gateway are running IE5.01 - same build number! Mine works fine - his is
> screwed!

> Anybody have a clue what is causing this???? My biggest problem is he is
> anything but a tekkie and is convinced I did something to sabotage him...
> and he owes me a BUNCH of money right now!!!! HEEELLLLPPPPPP !!!!!!!!!

> Roger Shumaker
> BAREFOOT COMPUTING

by **Roger S** » Sun, 09 Jul 2000 04:00:00

He IS using IE5! Although it may be related... he has to use NN mail as OE5
crashes upon launch - and I still can't solve that one for him. Me: I would
like to throw his machine in the trash... up 'til now I had a lot of respect
for Gateway. He HAD 6 viruses - I've removed all of them and OE5 still won't
work. Also has some DOS problems with sound card. HOWEVER... my downstairs
neighbor sees it scrambled too - I'll have to ask him if he uses NN or IE.
I'll have to fix that link to G: - thought FP was smart enough to resolve -
thanks for letting me know about it. Now comes the question: WHAT THE HECK
IS IT ABOUT THIS PAGE THAT DOESN'T WORK IN NN (which I loathe)?????? Despite
my feelings about NN, too many people use it, so I've got to fix that.

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Newsgroups: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: Page(s) displays incorrectly on only SOME computers
> > Roger Shumaker
> > BAREFOOT COMPUTING

> Tell him to look at it with IE rather than NN. It is scrambled in
> Navigator but OK in IE5. The music plays in IE not in NN and the hit
> counter does not appear in NN. Also the red sun logo points to a file
> on your hard drive (//G:...). I think part of the problem lies with in
> line styles which NN does not like. Also I would put my waterfall
> graphic and the text in separate cells of a table as this would help to
> keep them from displaying on top of each other.

by **Stefan B. Rusynk** » Sun, 09 Jul 2000 04:00:00

First of all you have links on the page that point to your hard disk, like:
<a href="file:///G:/SolTropical/welcome.htm"><img
src="_borders/sollogo_trans.GIF" width="150" height="160" border="0"></a>
-Fix your links

Secondly you are using inline styles which are not universally supported by
all browsers, like:
style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: -13; padding-right: 25"
-Remove all inline styles unless you are sure they work in all browsers

Thirdly with over 135K of images plus a bg sound on the opening page maybe
people can't around wait for it to open
-Do some serious image compression (BTW: bgsound doesn't work in NN)

Recommend you run your site thru a validator like http://www.netmechanic.com
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by **Daniel Lacke** » Sun, 09 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Forgive me for offering a solution which seems simplistic, but put your
different elements in a table, for starters. That should help your NS
problem, at least initially. I concur with the validator suggestion, and as
for the music, you're going to have to code the page to recognize NS or IE.
Good luck. HTH
Daniel Lackey
www.web-dj.cc

> Although the entire site is not yet finished, I am running into a strange
> problem that I feel is something on the client computer - UNFORTUNATELY,
> it's happening on MY CLIENT's computer! When I am working in FP2000 - OR
> viewing the pages either from my hard drive or the actualy web site
> (http://www.soltropical.com) on either of my two machines (W98 and an NT
> Server) or on my clients "other" workstation, it looks just like I
designed!
> But when my client from his Gateway Pentium200 (32MB RAM, good video card
> and 17" monitor) or my downstairs neigbor view the pages over my LAN or
> directly at the web site, everything is badly scrambled. The vertical
> navigation bar appears twice, one of which overlays HORIZONTALLY accross
> text and graphics and the correct vertical nav bar is splotchy (can't
> describe it any better in 50 words or less). I've been searching M/S's
> knowledgebase and every newsgroup I can find but so far can't find any
> explanation. Figure it's gotta be some feature in FP2000 that won't work
> correctly with some video drivers since both of my computers AND my
client's
> Gateway are running IE5.01 - same build number! Mine works fine - his is
> screwed!

> Anybody have a clue what is causing this???? My biggest problem is he is
> anything but a tekkie and is convinced I did something to sabotage him...
> and he owes me a BUNCH of money right now!!!! HEEELLLLPPPPPP !!!!!!!!!

> Roger Shumaker
> BAREFOOT COMPUTING

by **Philip Ya** » Mon, 10 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Same thing happened to me once.

Did an uninstallation of IE5, defrag and re-installation of IE5. It's ok
after that.
Probably corrupted IE5 files.

Hope it helps

Philip Yap

> Although the entire site is not yet finished, I am running into a strange
> problem that I feel is something on the client computer - UNFORTUNATELY,
> it's happening on MY CLIENT's computer! When I am working in FP2000 - OR
> viewing the pages either from my hard drive or the actualy web site
> (http://www.soltropical.com) on either of my two machines (W98 and an NT
> Server) or on my clients "other" workstation, it looks just like I
designed!
> But when my client from his Gateway Pentium200 (32MB RAM, good video card
> and 17" monitor) or my downstairs neigbor view the pages over my LAN or
> directly at the web site, everything is badly scrambled. The vertical
> navigation bar appears twice, one of which overlays HORIZONTALLY accross
> text and graphics and the correct vertical nav bar is splotchy (can't
> describe it any better in 50 words or less). I've been searching M/S's
> knowledgebase and every newsgroup I can find but so far can't find any
> explanation. Figure it's gotta be some feature in FP2000 that won't work
> correctly with some video drivers since both of my computers AND my
client's
> Gateway are running IE5.01 - same build number! Mine works fine - his is
> screwed!

> Anybody have a clue what is causing this???? My biggest problem is he is
> anything but a tekkie and is convinced I did something to sabotage him...
> and he owes me a BUNCH of money right now!!!! HEEELLLLPPPPPP !!!!!!!!!

> Roger Shumaker
> BAREFOOT COMPUTING