Hello. I was looking on the Internet for the history of the beginnings
of the name zip. I found a listing to this newsgroup.
Any answers? Where did zip get its name?
Thanks,
Stuart Smiler
Any answers? Where did zip get its name?
Thanks,
Stuart Smiler
Back in the early '80s, .ARC was the standard compression format in use
by most BBSes (remember, this is before the Web) to store files in. Now,
I can't remember the name of the company that started the .ARC format,
but they apparently copyrighted it. Well, PKWare made a better ARC
program; it compressed better, was faster, yadda, yadda, and so became
the standard ARC program.
Well, the company that owned the format (anyone remember their name?)
got all upset and sued PKWare, so PKWare decided to stop supporting the
ARC format. A few months later, they introduced PKZip. Version 1.0 was
crap, but people got it anyway because they knew PKWare, and Version 2.0
was much better. Within a few months, the sorry asses at that other
company, who could still be pushing product today had they not been such
snoots, were completely wiped off the map by ZIP. When's the last time
you saw an ARCed file?
Have a great day!
Ernest
>Any answers? Where did zip get its name?
>Thanks,
>Stuart Smiler
Let me add my bit of history...Quote:>I don't specifically know why PKWare used "ZIP," per se, but I do
>remember how the format came about.
That first archiver was called SEA, and though the company held noQuote:>Back in the early '80s, .ARC was the standard compression format in use
>by most BBSes (remember, this is before the Web) to store files in. Now,
>I can't remember the name of the company that started the .ARC format,
>but they apparently copyrighted it.
Not quite. They made PKPak, which used an OTHER format, but calledQuote:>Well, PKWare made a better ARC program; it compressed better, was
>faster, yadda, yadda, and so became the standard ARC program.
To stop them from using the extension, to be exact. They said PKWare wereQuote:>Well, the company that owned the format (anyone remember their name?)
>got all upset and sued PKWare, so PKWare decided to stop supporting the
>ARC format.
Again, not quite. It was way better than PKPak, and (at that time) zillionsQuote:>A few months later, they introduced PKZip. Version 1.0 was crap, but people
>got it anyway because they knew PKWare,
Although it took much time to get out of PKs office...Quote:>and Version 2.0 was much better.
They could NOT. SEA was *compared to even PKPak...Quote:>Within a few months, the sorry asses at that other company, who could
>still be pushing product today had they not been such snoots, were
>completely wiped off the map by ZIP.
Quite recently, but it was not the SEA flavor ;-)Quote:>When's the last time you saw an ARCed file?
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> Let me add my bit of history...
> >Back in the early '80s, .ARC was the standard compression format in use
> >by most BBSes (remember, this is before the Web) to store files in. Now,
> >I can't remember the name of the company that started the .ARC format,
> >but they apparently copyrighted it.
> That first archiver was called SEA, and though the company held no
> copywrong, they used this extension first...
> >Well, PKWare made a better ARC program; it compressed better, was
> >faster, yadda, yadda, and so became the standard ARC program.
> Not quite. They made PKPak, which used an OTHER format, but called
> its own files .ARC, also...
SEA, System Enhancment Associates. Vern something or other was their guy. HeQuote:> >Well, the company that owned the format (anyone remember their name?)
> >got all upset and sued PKWare, so PKWare decided to stop supporting the
> >ARC format.
> To stop them from using the extension, to be exact. They said PKWare were
> confusing their own customers.
Yep, zip still was faster and it compressed better than anytihng SEA had untilQuote:> >A few months later, they introduced PKZip. Version 1.0 was crap, but people
> >got it anyway because they knew PKWare,
> Again, not quite. It was way better than PKPak, and (at that time) zillions
> of
> miles ahead of SEA... remember, it was the age of 2,4kbaud (if at all), so
> every single byte saved was a great achievement.
I think their real death blow was when they released ARC 7+, which was a betterQuote:> >and Version 2.0 was much better.
> Although it took much time to get out of PKs office...
> >Within a few months, the sorry asses at that other company, who could
> >still be pushing product today had they not been such snoots, were
> >completely wiped off the map by ZIP.
> They could NOT. SEA was *compared to even PKPak...
> >When's the last time you saw an ARCed file?
> Quite recently, but it was not the SEA flavor ;-)
I remember when people boycotted BBSes that used the arc format because of
their support of PKware.
Ian Nelson
Have a great day!
Ernest
>Let me add my bit of history...
>>Back in the early '80s, .ARC was the standard compression format in
use
>>by most BBSes (remember, this is before the Web) to store files in.
Now,
>>I can't remember the name of the company that started the .ARC format,
>>but they apparently copyrighted it.
>That first archiver was called SEA, and though the company held no
>copywrong, they used this extension first...
>>Well, PKWare made a better ARC program; it compressed better, was
>>faster, yadda, yadda, and so became the standard ARC program.
>Not quite. They made PKPak, which used an OTHER format, but called
>its own files .ARC, also...
>>Well, the company that owned the format (anyone remember their name?)
>>got all upset and sued PKWare, so PKWare decided to stop supporting
the
>>ARC format.
>To stop them from using the extension, to be exact. They said PKWare
were
>confusing their own customers.
>>A few months later, they introduced PKZip. Version 1.0 was crap, but
people
>>got it anyway because they knew PKWare,
>Again, not quite. It was way better than PKPak, and (at that time)
zillions
>of
>miles ahead of SEA... remember, it was the age of 2,4kbaud (if at all),
so
>every single byte saved was a great achievement.
>>and Version 2.0 was much better.
>Although it took much time to get out of PKs office...
>>Within a few months, the sorry asses at that other company, who could
>>still be pushing product today had they not been such snoots, were
>>completely wiped off the map by ZIP.
>They could NOT. SEA was *compared to even PKPak...
>>When's the last time you saw an ARCed file?
>Quite recently, but it was not the SEA flavor ;-)
>Screamer
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>Universe halted.
>---------------------------------
>but REMOVE the hyphens. Sorry.
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