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by **Steve Thompso** » Sun, 06 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Hello,

I have been studying C for about 5 months now and I've become pretty
proficient in the DOS environment. I wanted to possibly start doing some
Windows programming but I havn't learned the C++ language yet. When I say
Windows, I mean Windows 9x. My questions are:

1) Is it possible, or at least relativly easy, to write Windows programs in
C and not C++.
2) And what about using C with MFC or Borlands OWL?
I've been using Borland C++ 4.52 and have been targeting it for DOS but
I've noticed that
you can use the AppExpert, Resource Workshop etc to create C++ code for
Windows.
3)Is there a way to have them generate C code instead. Or, is there a way to
just add C code to the code generated by AppExpert and compile it using the
rules for C (filename.c) instead of (filename.cpp).

My goal was to learn and become proficient in C and then maybe learn C++. I
was just wondering if learning C++ is absolutly necessary for Windows
programming.

Tanks for your time

Steve

by **Charles Rober** » Sun, 06 Dec 1998 04:00:00

OWL and MFC are both c++ class libraries. You need c++ to use
them.

>Hello,

>I have been studying C for about 5 months now and I've become pretty
>proficient in the DOS environment. I wanted to possibly start doing some
>Windows programming but I havn't learned the C++ language yet. When I say
>Windows, I mean Windows 9x. My questions are:

>1) Is it possible, or at least relativly easy, to write Windows programs in
>C and not C++.
>2) And what about using C with MFC or Borlands OWL?
> I've been using Borland C++ 4.52 and have been targeting it for DOS but
>I've noticed that
> you can use the AppExpert, Resource Workshop etc to create C++ code for
>Windows.
>3)Is there a way to have them generate C code instead. Or, is there a way to
>just add C code to the code generated by AppExpert and compile it using the
>rules for C (filename.c) instead of (filename.cpp).

>My goal was to learn and become proficient in C and then maybe learn C++. I
>was just wondering if learning C++ is absolutly necessary for Windows
>programming.

>Tanks for your time

>Steve

by **keycad** » Sun, 06 Dec 1998 04:00:00

>Hello,

>I have been studying C for about 5 months now and I've become pretty
>proficient in the DOS environment. I wanted to possibly start doing some
>Windows programming but I havn't learned the C++ language yet. When I say
>Windows, I mean Windows 9x. My questions are:

>1) Is it possible, or at least relativly easy, to write Windows programs in
>C and not C++.

Yes, but each way has it's own specific drawbacks.

Quote:>2) And what about using C with MFC or Borlands OWL?

Nope, half to use C++ in order to effectively use either frameworks.

Quote:>3)Is there a way to have them generate C code instead. Or, is there a way
to
>just add C code to the code generated by AppExpert and compile it using the
>rules for C (filename.c) instead of (filename.cpp).

forget it, it's one or the other.

Quote:>My goal was to learn and become proficient in C and then maybe learn C++. I
>was just wondering if learning C++ is absolutly necessary for Windows
>programming.

Nope, you can use just about any language to develop windows
applications.
<insert tools here>.

Best Regards,
jason hummel

by **John Hardma** » Sun, 06 Dec 1998 04:00:00

If you want to do Windows API stuff in C (which is how most of us did it
just a few years back) go out and buy the latest edition of Charles Petzolds
book, which is called something like Windows Programming. Can't remember the
exact title but if you do a search in Amazon for Charles Petzold you'll find
it easy enough.

Regards,

John Hardman.

by **Donn Mille** » Sun, 06 Dec 1998 04:00:00

> My goal was to learn and become proficient in C and then maybe learn C++. I
> was just wondering if learning C++ is absolutly necessary for Windows
> programming.

With regular C (not C++) you won't be able to use MFC or OWL. You could still
program in the basic Win32 API, which is pretty low-level. It isn't as low
level as programming the X windows API (Xlib), but it is still low-level.
Charles Petzold's book is a good reference for this.

I don't know if there are any toolkits that allow you to program in C. At least
the X window system has Motif, an object-oriented C toolkit. Check the Windows
programming FAQs for C language toolkits for Windows.

Donn

by **Chris Marriot** » Sun, 06 Dec 1998 04:00:00

>If you want to do Windows API stuff in C (which is how most of us did it
>just a few years back) go out and buy the latest edition of Charles
Petzolds
>book, which is called something like Windows Programming. Can't remember
the
>exact title but if you do a search in Amazon for Charles Petzold you'll
find
>it easy enough.

"Programming Windows" (5th Edition), pub Microsoft Press.

Chris
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by **Daniel F Valo** » Tue, 08 Dec 1998 04:00:00

WIN32 SDK is freely available from Microsoft at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com
and allows programming in C or C++, the macros like WINAPI handle the
differences in
calling convention I suppose. There is no downloadable documentation
presently, the documentation is online though !

Daniel

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>> My goal was to learn and become proficient in C and then maybe learn C++.
I
>> was just wondering if learning C++ is absolutly necessary for Windows
>> programming.

>With regular C (not C++) you won't be able to use MFC or OWL. You could
still
>program in the basic Win32 API, which is pretty low-level. It isn't as low
>level as programming the X windows API (Xlib), but it is still low-level.
>Charles Petzold's book is a good reference for this.

>I don't know if there are any toolkits that allow you to program in C. At
least
>the X window system has Motif, an object-oriented C toolkit. Check the
Windows
>programming FAQs for C language toolkits for Windows.

>Donn

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