Pop3 issues with new Comcast account

Pop3 issues with new Comcast account

Post by R. Tota » Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:43:37



I've been on attbi.com for a couple of years, which "transitioned" to
comcast.net this weekend.  Ever since this happened I have not been
able to connect to POP3 or smtp servers on other machines around the
internet. I have domains hosted at several different machines, but
can't get to the servers.
It either just times out or a get a hard disconnect with (in Eudora)
"Connection closed by foreign host".  I know the servers are up,
because I can get in through Webmail and read the messages, but POP3
doesn't work anywhere.  I can't even =telnet= into a POP3 server!!
Does anyone have any idea what's up? Can Comcast block outgoing
requests to POP servers?
 
 
 

Pop3 issues with new Comcast account

Post by R. Tota » Wed, 02 Jul 2003 23:02:35


Following up to myself, it appears that something Comcast has done is
not working and playing well with Norton Personal Firewall, which came
on this computer when I bought it and whose settings I have never
changed.  If I disable the firewall I can connect correctly.  Great -
I thought I'd never find a company less reachable for support than
Comcast (trying their Web chat at 2AM EST I was told that I was number
550 in the queue, and the phone number indicated a wait of "more than
30 minutes"), but I'm betting Norton is the one ;-). If anyone knows
what settings in NPF might be shutting me down, please pass them
along!

 
 
 

Pop3 issues with new Comcast account

Post by Quaoa » Thu, 03 Jul 2003 02:49:37



> I've been on attbi.com for a couple of years, which "transitioned" to
> comcast.net this weekend.  Ever since this happened I have not been
> able to connect to POP3 or smtp servers on other machines around the
> internet. I have domains hosted at several different machines, but
> can't get to the servers.
> It either just times out or a get a hard disconnect with (in Eudora)
> "Connection closed by foreign host".  I know the servers are up,
> because I can get in through Webmail and read the messages, but POP3
> doesn't work anywhere.  I can't even =telnet= into a POP3 server!!
> Does anyone have any idea what's up? Can Comcast block outgoing
> requests to POP servers?

I too have had some difficulties; it appears to be name server related.
I have used the IP addresses rather than the server name as a temporary
solution for failed SMTP.

Q

 
 
 

Pop3 issues with new Comcast account

Post by scotti » Thu, 03 Jul 2003 03:11:51



> I've been on attbi.com for a couple of years, which "transitioned" to
> comcast.net this weekend.  Ever since this happened I have not been
> able to connect to POP3 or smtp servers on other machines around the
> internet. I have domains hosted at several different machines, but
> can't get to the servers.
> It either just times out or a get a hard disconnect with (in Eudora)
> "Connection closed by foreign host".  I know the servers are up,
> because I can get in through Webmail and read the messages, but POP3
> doesn't work anywhere.  I can't even =telnet= into a POP3 server!!
> Does anyone have any idea what's up? Can Comcast block outgoing
> requests to POP servers?

I've noticed the POP3 server to be VERY slow.  I have Norton Antivirus
2003.  It does work, just VERY slow
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Pop3 issues with new Comcast account

Post by Robert R Kircher, Jr » Thu, 03 Jul 2003 03:17:19



Quote:> I've been on attbi.com for a couple of years, which "transitioned" to
> comcast.net this weekend.  Ever since this happened I have not been
> able to connect to POP3 or smtp servers on other machines around the
> internet. I have domains hosted at several different machines, but
> can't get to the servers.
> It either just times out or a get a hard disconnect with (in Eudora)
> "Connection closed by foreign host".  I know the servers are up,
> because I can get in through Webmail and read the messages, but POP3
> doesn't work anywhere.  I can't even =telnet= into a POP3 server!!
> Does anyone have any idea what's up? Can Comcast block outgoing
> requests to POP servers?

Comcast, as with many other ISPs, has blocked or is in the process of
blocking port 25.

Talked to a business rep for COX cable today who stated more block could be
on the way but he would tell me what ports.  The reasons used for the block
is to cut down on abuses like open mail relays.  He added that Residential
service is "for entertainment" and uses should need port 25 or 80. Then he
added that for an additional $15 - $20 bucks customers could get a static IP
and have all the blocks removed.   IMO the reasons given are a bunch of BS
and the real reason is to sell static IPs.

RCN/Starpower has done the same and I suspect other have as well.

--

Rob

 
 
 

Pop3 issues with new Comcast account

Post by Comcast e-mail is screw,tatooed and boobooe » Thu, 03 Jul 2003 03:27:10


I've been noticing the same there here, and I am a comast user that

and yes, they're trying to combine the ATTBI mail servers and the
*ing Com*servers... and now when Eudora goes to access a mail,
half way through the *ing server drops connections...

and the * tech support said it was *MY* software, the *ing
twit!

ARRRRGGH!

here's a *ing trace route to thier *ing usless shit

(C) Copyright 1985-1996 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>tracert mail.comcast.net

Tracing route to mail.comcast.net [204.127.202.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  2    20 ms    10 ms    20 ms  172.30.163.177
  3    10 ms    10 ms    20 ms  172.30.163.186
  4    30 ms    10 ms    10 ms  68.42.244.162
  5    10 ms    20 ms    10 ms  12.119.243.37
  6    10 ms    20 ms    11 ms  gbr1-p20.dtrmi.ip.att.net
[12.123.139.30]
  7    40 ms    30 ms    30 ms  tbr2-p012502.phlpa.ip.att.net
[12.122.3.5]
  8    30 ms    30 ms    30 ms  gbr2-p30.phlpa.ip.att.net
[12.122.12.110]
  9    20 ms    30 ms    30 ms  gar1-p370.phlpa.ip.att.net
[12.123.137.25]
 10    30 ms    50 ms    30 ms  mdf1-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.nyc3.attens.net
[12.122.255
.166]
 11    30 ms    30 ms    30 ms  63.240.64.102
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13    40 ms    30 ms    30 ms  mail.comcast.net [204.127.202.10]

Trace complete.

There *ing routing packets through *ing NEW YORK for a Michigan
mail server!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No WONDER the *ing packets are dying in
transit... check the smtp server:

Trace complete.

C:\>tracert smtp.comcast.net

Tracing route to smtp.comcast.net [63.240.76.27]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  2    30 ms    60 ms    10 ms  172.30.163.177
  3    10 ms    10 ms    21 ms  172.30.163.186
  4    10 ms    21 ms    10 ms  68.42.244.186
  5    10 ms    20 ms    20 ms  12.119.243.105
  6    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  gbr1-p20.dtrmi.ip.att.net
[12.123.139.30]
  7    30 ms    20 ms    30 ms  gbr1-p30.phlpa.ip.att.net
[12.122.3.66]
  8    20 ms    30 ms    20 ms  gbr1-p80.phlpa.ip.att.net
[12.122.12.106]
  9    20 ms    31 ms    30 ms  gar1-p360.phlpa.ip.att.net
[12.123.137.21]
 10    20 ms    30 ms    30 ms  mdf1-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.nyc3.attens.net
[12.122.255
.166]
 11    30 ms    20 ms    30 ms  63.240.64.102
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13    50 ms    40 ms    30 ms  smtp.comcast.net [63.240.76.27]

Trace complete.

Same deal, Goes to philly, then NY to come to michigan...

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....
I'm beginning to HATE COMCAST...

Way outwest might be getting a phone call...


blabbling:

...I've been on attbi.com for a couple of years, which "transitioned"
to
...comcast.net this weekend.  Ever since this happened I have not been
...able to connect to POP3 or smtp servers on other machines around
the
...internet. I have domains hosted at several different machines, but
...can't get to the servers.
...It either just times out or a get a hard disconnect with (in
Eudora)
..."Connection closed by foreign host".  I know the servers are up,
...because I can get in through Webmail and read the messages, but
POP3
...doesn't work anywhere.  I can't even =telnet= into a POP3 server!!
...Does anyone have any idea what's up? Can Comcast block outgoing
...requests to POP servers?

 
 
 

Pop3 issues with new Comcast account

Post by Tim S. Knigh » Thu, 03 Jul 2003 05:24:00


"Comcast e-mail is screw,tatooed and *ooed"


Quote:> There *ing routing packets through *ing NEW YORK for a Michigan
> mail server!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No WONDER the *ing packets are dying in
> transit... check the smtp server:

Uh, that's faily normal, and since you are getting packets THROUGH that
location, has probably nothing whatsoever to do with the  fact that
comcast's mail server is down.

Here's a nice example. In fact, it goes from Texas, through Arizona, to
California, and back to Arizona

Tracing route to ip68-2-24X-XXX.ph.ph.cox.net [68.2.24X.XXX]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  3    10 ms    12 ms    17 ms  cs2428129-5.satx.rr.com [24.28.129.5]
  4    33 ms    26 ms    11 ms  srp80.snantx6000-rtr4.texas.rr.com [24.93.33.140]
  5    14 ms    14 ms    13 ms  pop1-hou-P7-0.atdn.net [66.185.136.73]
  6    19 ms    15 ms    12 ms  bb2-hou-P2-0.atdn.net [66.185.150.150]
  7    45 ms    64 ms    47 ms  bb2-pho-P7-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.107]
  8    47 ms    62 ms    62 ms  bb1-pho-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.36]
  9    62 ms    55 ms    55 ms  bb1-las-P7-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.26]
 10    83 ms    55 ms    54 ms  pop2-las-P0-0.atdn.net [66.185.137.161]
 11    55 ms    55 ms    56 ms  CoxCommunications.atdn.net [66.185.151.234]
 12    80 ms    56 ms    54 ms  rsmtbbrc02-pos0103.rd.oc.cox.net [68.1.0.190]
 13    65 ms    71 ms    65 ms  lvxxbbrc01-pos0102.rd.lv.cox.net [68.1.0.86]
 14    77 ms    74 ms    97 ms  chndbbrc01-pos0103.rd.ph.cox.net [68.1.0.89]
 15    75 ms   108 ms    80 ms  chnddsrc01-pos0901.rd.ph.cox.net [68.1.0.165]
 16    75 ms    74 ms    73 ms  chndsysr01-gew1203.rd.ph.cox.net [68.2.14.22]
 17    76 ms    74 ms   103 ms  ip68-2-0-6.ph.ph.cox.net [68.2.0.6]
 18    81 ms   100 ms    74 ms  ip68-2-0-14.ph.ph.cox.net [68.2.0.14]
 19    76 ms    81 ms    73 ms  ip68-2-0-82.ph.ph.cox.net [68.2.0.82]
 20    73 ms    73 ms    77 ms  ip68-2-6-2.ph.ph.cox.net [68.2.6.2]

 
 
 

Pop3 issues with new Comcast account

Post by moon » Thu, 03 Jul 2003 11:52:26


the worthless csr, told me there are no problems in new jersey

i told him, that is a stock reply unless 20 people complain

he yelled "i did not say that"

com*tech really suck

"Comcast e-mail is screw,tatooed and *ooed"

> I've been noticing the same there here, and I am a comast user that

> and yes, they're trying to combine the ATTBI mail servers and the
> *ing Com*servers... and now when Eudora goes to access a mail,
> half way through the *ing server drops connections...

> and the * tech support said it was *MY* software, the *ing
> twit!

> ARRRRGGH!

> here's a *ing trace route to thier *ing usless shit

> (C) Copyright 1985-1996 Microsoft Corp.

> C:\>tracert mail.comcast.net

> Tracing route to mail.comcast.net [204.127.202.10]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:

>   1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>   2    20 ms    10 ms    20 ms  172.30.163.177
>   3    10 ms    10 ms    20 ms  172.30.163.186
>   4    30 ms    10 ms    10 ms  68.42.244.162
>   5    10 ms    20 ms    10 ms  12.119.243.37
>   6    10 ms    20 ms    11 ms  gbr1-p20.dtrmi.ip.att.net
> [12.123.139.30]
>   7    40 ms    30 ms    30 ms  tbr2-p012502.phlpa.ip.att.net
> [12.122.3.5]
>   8    30 ms    30 ms    30 ms  gbr2-p30.phlpa.ip.att.net
> [12.122.12.110]
>   9    20 ms    30 ms    30 ms  gar1-p370.phlpa.ip.att.net
> [12.123.137.25]
>  10    30 ms    50 ms    30 ms  mdf1-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.nyc3.attens.net
> [12.122.255
> .166]
>  11    30 ms    30 ms    30 ms  63.240.64.102
>  12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>  13    40 ms    30 ms    30 ms  mail.comcast.net [204.127.202.10]

> Trace complete.

> There *ing routing packets through *ing NEW YORK for a Michigan
> mail server!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No WONDER the *ing packets are dying in
> transit... check the smtp server:

> Trace complete.

> C:\>tracert smtp.comcast.net

> Tracing route to smtp.comcast.net [63.240.76.27]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:

>   1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>   2    30 ms    60 ms    10 ms  172.30.163.177
>   3    10 ms    10 ms    21 ms  172.30.163.186
>   4    10 ms    21 ms    10 ms  68.42.244.186
>   5    10 ms    20 ms    20 ms  12.119.243.105
>   6    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  gbr1-p20.dtrmi.ip.att.net
> [12.123.139.30]
>   7    30 ms    20 ms    30 ms  gbr1-p30.phlpa.ip.att.net
> [12.122.3.66]
>   8    20 ms    30 ms    20 ms  gbr1-p80.phlpa.ip.att.net
> [12.122.12.106]
>   9    20 ms    31 ms    30 ms  gar1-p360.phlpa.ip.att.net
> [12.123.137.21]
>  10    20 ms    30 ms    30 ms  mdf1-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.nyc3.attens.net
> [12.122.255
> .166]
>  11    30 ms    20 ms    30 ms  63.240.64.102
>  12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>  13    50 ms    40 ms    30 ms  smtp.comcast.net [63.240.76.27]

> Trace complete.

> Same deal, Goes to philly, then NY to come to michigan...

> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....
> I'm beginning to HATE COMCAST...

> Way outwest might be getting a phone call...


> blabbling:

> ...I've been on attbi.com for a couple of years, which "transitioned"
> to
> ...comcast.net this weekend.  Ever since this happened I have not been
> ...able to connect to POP3 or smtp servers on other machines around
> the
> ...internet. I have domains hosted at several different machines, but
> ...can't get to the servers.
> ...It either just times out or a get a hard disconnect with (in
> Eudora)
> ..."Connection closed by foreign host".  I know the servers are up,
> ...because I can get in through Webmail and read the messages, but
> POP3
> ...doesn't work anywhere.  I can't even =telnet= into a POP3 server!!
> ...Does anyone have any idea what's up? Can Comcast block outgoing
> ...requests to POP servers?

 
 
 

Pop3 issues with new Comcast account

Post by Giles Harne » Thu, 03 Jul 2003 20:32:19


"Comcast e-mail is screw,tatooed and *ooed"

Quote:> There *ing routing packets through *ing NEW YORK for a Michigan
> mail server!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No WONDER the *ing packets are dying in
> transit... check the smtp server:

your trace doesnt show evidence of dropped packets.

its not the number of hops, or physical distance that matters.

 
 
 

Pop3 issues with new Comcast account

Post by R. Tota » Fri, 04 Jul 2003 00:17:16



Quote:> Comcast, as with many other ISPs, has blocked or is in the process of
> blocking port 25.
...
> RCN/Starpower has done the same and I suspect other have as well.

I'm choosing your article to follow up, as the thread had gotten off
track and you came closest to an answer.  I've got no issue with
Comcast's =own= servers, I don't use them. (I never used attbroadband's
servers or email account either).  I've got my own domains hosted on
various machines here and there throughout the world, all of which come
with their own POP3 and SMTP servers.  It's =those= servers I can't reach
since the transition, unless I disable Norton Personal Firewall. Once
I do so, I can use both POP3 and smtp at will, so it's not a system wide
port block - it's specifically an interaction between the Norton Firewall
on this machine and Comcast.  And it's something that Comcast is doing
that att didn't.  I'm still waiting on answers from Norton (now there's
a surprise), but would still welcom informed speculation here.
 
 
 

Pop3 issues with new Comcast account

Post by Robert R Kircher, Jr » Fri, 04 Jul 2003 00:43:04




Quote:

> > Comcast, as with many other ISPs, has blocked or is in the process of
> > blocking port 25.
> ...
> > RCN/Starpower has done the same and I suspect other have as well.

> I'm choosing your article to follow up, as the thread had gotten off
> track and you came closest to an answer.  I've got no issue with
> Comcast's =own= servers, I don't use them. (I never used attbroadband's
> servers or email account either).  I've got my own domains hosted on
> various machines here and there throughout the world, all of which come
> with their own POP3 and SMTP servers.  It's =those= servers I can't reach
> since the transition, unless I disable Norton Personal Firewall. Once
> I do so, I can use both POP3 and smtp at will, so it's not a system wide
> port block - it's specifically an interaction between the Norton Firewall
> on this machine and Comcast.  And it's something that Comcast is doing
> that att didn't.  I'm still waiting on answers from Norton (now there's
> a surprise), but would still welcom informed speculation here.

Have you looked over your NFW config carefully?  I've never seen an ISP
doing something different that would make a personal FW fail but that
doesn't mean the wouldn't.

I'd be suspicious of the FW settings and make sure that the rules jive with
you new Comcast settings like IP address etc.

Maybe you should remove the existing SMTP and POP3 rules and recreate them.

--

Rob

 
 
 

Pop3 issues with new Comcast account

Post by Giles Harne » Sat, 05 Jul 2003 01:25:07



Quote:>  I'm still waiting on answers from Norton (now there's
> a surprise), but would still welcom informed speculation here.

its not comcast.
 
 
 

1. Comcast mail: POP3 or web-only?


as undeliverable with an invalid user, etc.

Called Comcast support. "Oh, those new addresses won't be rolled out
until later in the month."

"OK, well, I'd like to set up my accounts in my email clients. What are
the POP3/SMTP servers to use?"

"Oh, you don't use those. You just use web mail!"

"You mean to tell me that I have to use web mail? I can't use a POP3
email client?!?!?"

"Yeah, I think so, but they're still training us...."


any light on this? Please say it isn't so (because if it is, I'm outtahere).

--
Allan Crowson

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