Sourcing direct-bury cat5 cable in the UK ?

Sourcing direct-bury cat5 cable in the UK ?

Post by James Roy » Sat, 05 Jul 2003 23:21:33



Can anybody suggest a source for direct-bury cat5 cable (and
associated surge/lightning protectors) in the UK as I am struggling to
find anywhere that sells the stuff !

Many thanks in anticipation.

James.

 
 
 

Sourcing direct-bury cat5 cable in the UK ?

Post by William Tass » Sun, 06 Jul 2003 00:16:01



> Can anybody suggest a source for direct-bury cat5 cable (and
> associated surge/lightning protectors) in the UK as I am struggling to
> find anywhere that sells the stuff !

fibre (fiber) - honestly, it's far less hassle and costs less too.  direct
burial voice cable (if you need it) should be fairly trivial to source.

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Sourcing direct-bury cat5 cable in the UK ?

Post by Stuart Robins » Sun, 06 Jul 2003 01:50:00


Wadsworth should have the surge arrestors etc.

But for the cable you will struggle, I cant recall seeing it in any of the
UK networking catalogues.

Stuart.

 
 
 

Sourcing direct-bury cat5 cable in the UK ?

Post by James Royc » Sun, 06 Jul 2003 03:24:20


Fibre would be my preferred option too. I am a little nervous though about
the correct way to bury the stuff in the first instance, and secondly, as I
have no way of terminating the cable myself, I would have to rely on
pre-built )(terminated) cables - then there's always the worry about
damaging the things when you are dragging them through walls etc. Call me
paranoid perhaps, but I just feel happier with copper ! :-)



> > Can anybody suggest a source for direct-bury cat5 cable (and
> > associated surge/lightning protectors) in the UK as I am struggling to
> > find anywhere that sells the stuff !

> fibre (fiber) - honestly, it's far less hassle and costs less too.  direct
> burial voice cable (if you need it) should be fairly trivial to source.

> --
> William Tasso - http://www.WilliamTasso.com

 
 
 

Sourcing direct-bury cat5 cable in the UK ?

Post by Stuart Robins » Sun, 06 Jul 2003 16:14:00


Quote:>  and secondly, as I
> have no way of terminating the cable myself, I would have to rely on
> pre-built )(terminated)

Why ?

I normally order fibre in with one end terminated, lay the cable with the
free end and then get someone in to terminate the other end.

Stuart.

 
 
 

Sourcing direct-bury cat5 cable in the UK ?

Post by James Royc » Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:12:59


OK, I think that I'm going to have to concede here - you may well have
twisted my arm ! A few questions though as I am a little green when it comes
to fibre ! ... :-)

Where do you source your fibre from and approx. how much does it cost ? How
much(ish) would I expect to pay someone to terminate an end for me ? Is it
as simple as digging a trench, dropping in the cable, and then filling it in
again ? And finally, what precautions (if any) should I take when the fibre
is leaving/entering the building (ie, in order to avoid damage to the
cable).

Many thanks in anticipation.

James.


Quote:> >  and secondly, as I
> > have no way of terminating the cable myself, I would have to rely on
> > pre-built )(terminated)

> Why ?

> I normally order fibre in with one end terminated, lay the cable with the
> free end and then get someone in to terminate the other end.

> Stuart.

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Sourcing direct-bury cat5 cable in the UK ?

Post by William Tass » Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:11:25



> OK, I think that I'm going to have to concede here - you may well have
> twisted my arm ! A few questions though as I am a little green when
> it comes to fibre ! ... :-)

> Where do you source your fibre from

stock - oh all right, RW-Data but you can get it from any networking
supplier

Quote:> and approx. how much does it cost
> ? How much(ish) would I expect to pay someone to terminate an end for
> me ?

where are you?

how many cores?

Quote:> Is it as simple as digging a trench, dropping in the cable, and
> then filling it in again ?

mostly - if its a long trench or under a road/track used by vehicles you may
be well advised to employ a specialist contractor especially with regard to
back filling and finishing.

Quote:> And finally, what precautions (if any)
> should I take when the fibre is leaving/entering the building (ie, in
> order to avoid damage to the cable).

bend radius, sharp corners etc - the usual.

good luck

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Sourcing direct-bury cat5 cable in the UK ?

Post by Stuart Robins » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 02:33:00


Quote:> Where do you source your fibre from and approx. how much does it cost ?

I get my networks bits from Pronet, based in Hungerford.

4 core Fibre is about 1.70/M, transceivers for each end maybe 175 each
(could be an out of date price) and there is maybe 35s worth of other
bits for each end. prices for terminating fibre vary, from maybe 25 per
end to 60.

Quote:> is it
> as simple as digging a trench, dropping in the cable, and then filling
> it in
> again ?

It could be, but thats not the way I would do it. Dig trench 0.5M deep,
fill bottom with sand, lay cable cover with more sand, lay tiles on top.
cover with a bit of earth and add warning tape over it.

However since as soon as you have covered over the cable you will be asked
to run another, I would not direct bury in the first place. I would bury a
small drainage pipe and pull the cable thru it leaving a pull rope in
place.  

Quote:> And finally, what precautions (if any) should I take when the fibre
> is leaving/entering the building (ie, in order to avoid damage to the
> cable).

Bend radius is the main issue, and this with physical protection if you
have to run it up an external wall can usually be managed with the various
types of plastic waste plumbing pipes and fittings.

Stuart.

 
 
 

Sourcing direct-bury cat5 cable in the UK ?

Post by Zak » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 05:43:18



> However since as soon as you have covered over the cable you will be asked
> to run another, I would not direct bury in the first place. I would bury a
> small drainage pipe and pull the cable thru it leaving a pull rope in
> place.  

One could get the pre-lubricated fibre tube as well, but I remeber a
CATV company here priding themselves on buying flexible water pipe
because of the price.

Cheaper and uses the same fittings. I don't know what you had in mind
with drainage pipe, but that's usually rigid. Just a bit of flexibility
may help.

Thomas

 
 
 

Sourcing direct-bury cat5 cable in the UK ?

Post by Stuart Robins » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 06:01:00


Quote:>  I don't know what you had in mind
> with drainage pipe, but that's usually rigid. Just a bit of flexibility
> may help.

Your probably right, the water pipe is more flexible (sold in big rolls)
and if it uses the same fixings of the equivalent size drainage pipe, then
why not.

Stuart.

 
 
 

1. Direct-Bury cat5 cable ?

Still looking for the above. Someone here said Belden makes it, and another
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Does anyone have any more information about Belden direct bury   cat5 cable
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