Hello Jonathan,
Thanks for the detailed response. No issue with Norton;
I don't have it installed. I do, however, have another
antivirus installed.
Specifically dealing with disabling Windows Messenger,
without uninstalling it... I was not able to find a
checkbox that says 'Run this program when Windows starts'.
Here's what I did to confirm that I followed your
directions:
From the system tray, I clicked the windows messenger
icon. Selected "open" from the contextual menu to bring
up the windows messenger window.
From the windows messenger, I chose Tools > Options. The
options window appears.
From the Options window, I selected the Preferences tab.
This is where I understand that I should have seen "Run
this program when Windows starts."
Unfortunately, it was not there, nor was there anything
remotely similar. In fact, this is the choices I have:
General
- Allow this program to run in the background.
- Show me "away" when I'm inactive for [ x ] minutes.
Alerts
- Display alerts when contacts come online
- Display alerts when an instant message is received
- Display alerts when email is received.
- Play sound when contacts sign in or send a message
File Transfer
- Files received from other users will be put in this
folder: [ box ]
[ OK ] [ Cancel ] [ Help ]
As you can see, there is nothing that mentions running at
start up. I even checked the help system looking for any
mention of "start up", but nothing appears. Similarly, I
looked under every other tab in the Options window with
no luck.
In case it's helpful to know....
I'm running WinXP Home version 5.1 (build
2600.xpsp2.030422-1633 : service pack 1) and Windows
Messenger version 4.7 (4.7.2005).
Any thoughts on how to find this missing checkbox?
Quote:>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings Dan,
>It's not that you have those applications installed
(obviously they come with Windows), but
Quote:>assuming you've closed them down, do you have Norton
Antivirus 2003 installed? Norton added a
Quote:>new "instant messaging scanning" feature to Norton
Antivirus 2003, which can conflict with
Quote:>Messenger and cause this behavior. To stop it, open
Norton Antivirus (Right-click on the
Quote:>Norton Ant
ivirus icon in the System Tray/Notification Area (by the
clock), choose 'Open
Quote:>Norton Antivirus'), click Options, then Instant
Messenger then uncheck MSN Instant Messenger
Quote:>and click OK. Even if you're not going to proceed with
the uninstallation (see below), you
Quote:>might want to uncheck this option as it will continue to
load Windows Messenger, even if
Quote:>you've disabled it.
>MSN Messenger does not "take over where Windows
Messenger left off", as they're designed to
Quote:>both be able to be installed at the same time. However,
the only real integration (that's in
Quote:>Windows) is the Contacts in Outlook Express and Remote
Assistance. As well, the Whiteboard
Quote:>and Application Sharing (options in MSN Messenger 5 and
Windows Messenger) will not function
Quote:>without Windows Messenger being installed (but not
necessarily running).
Quote:>Instead of uninstalling completely, to retain full
functionality in MSN Messenger, but not
Quote:>have to bother with Windows Messenger, there is another
way to disable it. Simply open up
Quote:>the main Windows Messenger window, click Tools, Options,
Preferences tab and uncheck 'Run
Quote:>this program when Windows starts'. Then, if you do use
Outlook Express, close it, then
Quote:>download and run this .reg file (to disable it in
Outlook Express):
>http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_
oe.reg
>As well, to be sure it doesn't load, see the above note
with Norton Antivirus 2003.
Quote:>Finally, if Windows Messenger is currently loaded, just
right-click its icon and choose Exit.
Quote:>You can then use MSN Messenger 5 with full
functionality, all functions in Windows will work,
>and Windows Messenger shouldn't bother you.
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> I am interested in uninstalling Windows Messenger in
>> favor of using MSN Messenger. I like having the extra
>> functionality of MSN Messenger, and hate having
>> redundant "messenger" icons in the system tray.
>> Thanks to Jonathon, when I initially looked into
>> disabling Windows Messenger, I followed instructions on
>> this web page:
>> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/allsteps.aspx?ID=7
>> Unfortunately, when I tried step one (exiting Windows
>> Messenger), I got an error. It said, "There are other
>> applications currently using features provided by
Windows
>> Messenger. You must close these other applications
before
>> you can exit Windows Messenger. These applications may
>> include Outlook, Outlook Express, MSN Explorer, and
>> Internet Explorer."
>> The truth is that I have all four of these applications
>> installed.
>> What functionality in these four apps am I giving up by
>> uninstalling Windows Messenger? Shouldn't MSN
Messenger
>> pickup where Windows Messenger leaves off, therefore
not
>> cause me to give up functionality?
>> I read in another post that there is integration
between
>> apps (which explains the error message) and that it has
>> has sometime to do with Contacts. I believe it was
>> Outlook Express that was mentioned.
>> In summary, I simply want to have MSN Messenger
>> available, not Windows Messenger. I also don't want to
>> give up functionality in other applications. Is there
>> any way to do this?
>> A comprimise might be to make Windows Messenger
invisible
>> and not take over my MSN Messenger logins. That is,
when
>> I'm logged into MSN Messenger, I don't want Windows
>> Messenger to override it somehow.
>> Thanks for your help.
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