Poor Live TV or Recorded TV performance

Poor Live TV or Recorded TV performance

Post by Hank » Sat, 05 Jul 2003 02:26:06



My TV in MCE was getting slow and sluggish and also notice that my computer
was getting a little sluggish too. I found that my hard drive was set to PIO
Mode. Have you had problems with Live TV or Recorded TV being slow and
sluggish?  Thought it was a driver problem and reloaded the drivers or even
reformatted and reloaded MCE.
Read this Microsoft Knowledge Base Article # 817472
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817472
I had completely forgotten about this. The Workaround really works!

--
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Poor Live TV or Recorded TV performance

Post by Bob » Sat, 05 Jul 2003 03:12:14


I don't see any IDE channel  in my Device Manager.  Is there someplace else
I should look, or does that mean I'm immune to this problem?  I have an HP
873n with the original 120GB drive.  Thanks.

-Bob


Quote:> My TV in MCE was getting slow and sluggish and also notice that my
computer
> was getting a little sluggish too. I found that my hard drive was set to
PIO
> Mode. Have you had problems with Live TV or Recorded TV being slow and
> sluggish?  Thought it was a driver problem and reloaded the drivers or
even
> reformatted and reloaded MCE.
> Read this Microsoft Knowledge Base Article # 817472
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817472
> I had completely forgotten about this. The Workaround really works!

> --
> Hank

> This posting was provided "AS IS" with NO ASSurances..


 
 
 

Poor Live TV or Recorded TV performance

Post by Luis A. Burgo » Sat, 05 Jul 2003 03:12:51


Hank,

First off, thanks for the great tip.

Have you tried the intel application accelerator? It replaces native drivers
and IO susbsystem components that are supposed to query the HD and try to
achieve the highest possible transfer mode, as well as optimize some other
settings (?)

You can read about and eventually download it from here
http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/iaa/

I have been using it for a while and having noticed that sluggish
performance you mentioned. My computer goes to standby after 15 min of
inactivity.

I thank you for sharing your finding with us. I wonder if having iaa
installed somehow prevents this from happening.

Thank you Hank.

Best regards,

Luis


Quote:> My TV in MCE was getting slow and sluggish and also notice that my
computer
> was getting a little sluggish too. I found that my hard drive was set to
PIO
> Mode. Have you had problems with Live TV or Recorded TV being slow and
> sluggish?  Thought it was a driver problem and reloaded the drivers or
even
> reformatted and reloaded MCE.
> Read this Microsoft Knowledge Base Article # 817472
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817472
> I had completely forgotten about this. The Workaround really works!

> --
> Hank

> This posting was provided "AS IS" with NO ASSurances..

 
 
 

Poor Live TV or Recorded TV performance

Post by WaltS [MVP WMC » Sat, 05 Jul 2003 03:56:30


"Bob" wrote in part:
 > I don't see any IDE channel  in my Device Manager.

      ...Device Manager / IDE ATA - ATAPI controllers / Primary IDE or
Secondary IDE channel / ...

For me IDE ATA - ATAPI controllers falls after Human Interface Devices and
before IEEE 1284.4 compatible printers.

Hope this helps...

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Poor Live TV or Recorded TV performance

Post by Bob » Sat, 05 Jul 2003 04:07:06


That's where I'm looking, but it simply isn't there.  For me, after Human
Interface Devices is IEEE 1394 Bus host controllers.

Can anyone else with an HP 873n see the IDE ATE ... controller in their
Device Manger?

-Bob



> "Bob" wrote in part:
>  > I don't see any IDE channel  in my Device Manager.

>       ...Device Manager / IDE ATA - ATAPI controllers / Primary IDE or
> Secondary IDE channel / ...

> For me IDE ATA - ATAPI controllers falls after Human Interface Devices and
> before IEEE 1284.4 compatible printers.

> Hope this helps...

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Poor Live TV or Recorded TV performance

Post by WaltS [MVP WMC » Sat, 05 Jul 2003 04:45:21


Bob -

Look at my dotSig <g>

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p.p.s ...brb with more HD data

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Poor Live TV or Recorded TV performance

Post by WaltS [MVP WMC » Sat, 05 Jul 2003 05:11:00


Bob -

FWIW, here's my HD data:

--------[ ATA ]------------------------

  [ SAMSUNG SV1204H (0527J1ETC08908) ]

    ATA Device Properties:
      Model ID                     SAMSUNG SV1204H
      Serial Number                0527J1ETC08908
      Revision                     RK100-09
      Parameters                   232632 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors
per track, 554 bytes per sector
      LBA Sectors                  234493056
      Buffer                       2 MB (Dual Ported, Read Ahead)
      Multiple Sectors             16
      ECC Bytes                    4
      Max. PIO Transfer Mode       PIO 4
      Max. UDMA Transfer Mode      UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
      Active UDMA Transfer Mode    UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
      Unformatted Capacity         123891 MB

    ATA Device Physical Info:
      Manufacturer                 Samsung
      Hard Disk Family             SpinPoint V60
      Form Factor                  3.5"
      Formatted Capacity           120 GB
      Disks                        2
      Recording Surfaces           4
      Physical Dimensions          146.05 x 101.6 x 25.4 mm
      Max. Weight                  680 g
      Average Rotational Latency   5.56 ms
      Rotational Speed             5400 RPM
      Max. Internal Data Rate      498 Mbit/s
      Average Seek                 8.9 ms
      Track-To-Track Seek          0.8 ms
      Full Seek                    17.5 ms
      Interface                    Ultra-ATA/100
      Buffer-to-Host Data Rate     100 MB/s
      Buffer Size                  2 MB

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Poor Live TV or Recorded TV performance

Post by Hank » Sat, 05 Jul 2003 08:25:37


Luis,

I have IAA installed, it doesn't help keep the hard drive at the optimized
settings when you have to perform dirty reboots or especially if you have to
run chkdsk c:/f.

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> Hank,

> First off, thanks for the great tip.

> Have you tried the intel application accelerator? It replaces native
drivers
> and IO susbsystem components that are supposed to query the HD and try to
> achieve the highest possible transfer mode, as well as optimize some other
> settings (?)

> You can read about and eventually download it from here
> http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/iaa/

> I have been using it for a while and having noticed that sluggish
> performance you mentioned. My computer goes to standby after 15 min of
> inactivity.

> I thank you for sharing your finding with us. I wonder if having iaa
> installed somehow prevents this from happening.

> Thank you Hank.

> Best regards,

> Luis



> > My TV in MCE was getting slow and sluggish and also notice that my
> computer
> > was getting a little sluggish too. I found that my hard drive was set to
> PIO
> > Mode. Have you had problems with Live TV or Recorded TV being slow and
> > sluggish?  Thought it was a driver problem and reloaded the drivers or
> even
> > reformatted and reloaded MCE.
> > Read this Microsoft Knowledge Base Article # 817472
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817472
> > I had completely forgotten about this. The Workaround really works!

> > --
> > Hank

> > This posting was provided "AS IS" with NO ASSurances..

 
 
 

Poor Live TV or Recorded TV performance

Post by WaltS [MVP WMC » Sat, 05 Jul 2003 20:22:13


"Bob" wrote in part:
 > Do you have any idea why my Device Manager doesn't show an IDE ATA
controller?
   ...two thoughts

You do show SCSI and RAID controllers - exactly what is being controlled?

If you do System Information (programs / accessories / system tools / system
information) and look under components/storage/ide what do you get? I get:

Name Intel(R) 82801DB Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 24CB
Manufacturer Intel
Status OK
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24CB&SUBSYS_90161509&REV_01\3&13C0B0C5&0&F9
I/O Port 0x0000F000-0x0000F00F
Memory Address 0xFEBFFC00-0xFEBFFFFF
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\pciide.sys (5.1.2600.0
(XPClient.010817-1148), 3.25 KB (3,328 bytes), 9/26/2002 11:58 PM)

Name Primary IDE Channel
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Status OK
PNP Device ID PCIIDE\IDECHANNEL\4&437A1C0&0&0
I/O Port 0x000001F0-0x000001F7
I/O Port 0x000003F6-0x000003F6
IRQ Channel IRQ 14
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\atapi.sys (5.1.2600.1106
(xpsp1.020828-1920), 84.88 KB (86,912 bytes), 9/26/2002 11:56 PM)

Name Secondary IDE Channel
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Status OK
PNP Device ID PCIIDE\IDECHANNEL\4&437A1C0&0&1
I/O Port 0x00000170-0x00000177
I/O Port 0x00000376-0x00000376
IRQ Channel IRQ 15
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\atapi.sys (5.1.2600.1106
(xpsp1.020828-1920), 84.88 KB (86,912 bytes), 9/26/2002 11:56 PM)

And, when I look under SCSI, I get a blank.

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Poor Live TV or Recorded TV performance

Post by Bob » Sat, 05 Jul 2003 23:41:54


Quote:> You do show SCSI and RAID controllers - exactly what is being controlled?

The only thing under SCSI and RAID controllers is NERO IMAGEDRIVE SCSI
Controller.

Quote:> If you do System Information (programs / accessories / system tools /
system
> information) and look under components/storage/ide what do you get? I get:

I get exactly the same information as you.

Quote:> And, when I look under SCSI, I get a blank.

Me too.

-Bob

 
 
 

Poor Live TV or Recorded TV performance

Post by WaltS [MVP WMC » Sun, 06 Jul 2003 00:52:56


Bob -

I'm at a loss as to why Device Manager does not show IDE ATA - ATAPI
controllers...

Anyone have any ideas?

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Poor Live TV or Recorded TV performance

Post by Bob » Sun, 06 Jul 2003 02:22:46


I just expanded the Unknown node in my Device Manager, and I found the
following:

Unknown
    Intel(R) 82801DB Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 24CB
    Primary IDE Channel
    Secondary IDE Channel

So now my questions are:
  1.  Why is it labeled Unknown instead of IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers?
  2.  How do I fix it?

I was thinking about uninstalling the drivers for all three IDE/ATA
controllers to see if Windows would reinstall the drivers and create the
correctly-named Device Manager node for them.  Does this sound like a good
idea, or is there a chance that I'll really*things up by doing that?

Thanks,
-Bob



> Bob -

> I'm at a loss as to why Device Manager does not show IDE ATA - ATAPI
> controllers...

> Anyone have any ideas?

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Poor Live TV or Recorded TV performance

Post by WaltS [MVP WMC » Sun, 06 Jul 2003 04:38:32


"Bob" wrote in part:
 > I was thinking about uninstalling the drivers for all three IDE/ATA
controllers to see if Windows would reinstall the drivers and create the
correctly-named Device Manager node for them.  Does this sound like a good
idea, or is there a chance that I'll really*things up by doing that?

I would NOT DO THAT!

And since I've never "been here" before I don't have any real answers -
other than the usual search sources. Perhaps someone else can comment...

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Poor Live TV or Recorded TV performance

Post by WaltS [MVP WMC » Sun, 06 Jul 2003 19:38:41


"Bob" wrote in part:
 > ...I don't know how to get all that detailed info you provided.
   ...I use AIDA32

http://www.aida32.hu/aida32.php

AIDA32 is a professional system information, diagnostics and benchmarking
program running on Win32 platforms. It extracts details of all components of
the PC. It can display information on the screen, print it, or save it to
file in various formats like HTML, CSV or XML. For corporate users, AIDA32
offers command-line switches, network audit and audit statistics, remote
system information and network management.

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