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Well, as much as I hate to say it, printing under Netscape (in
a win-os2 session) is much faster than WebExplorer under OS/2.
For some reason it looks like WebEx is using my printer (24 pins,
epson LQ-500 compatible) in graphical mode while Netscape is
using some text mode.  Yet, the output of both is similar in
quality.

Now, if printing speed was the only factor I would
probably go with WebEx rather than a windows app, but there are
other problems as well.  WebEx will often *under heavy SLIP
traffic (with the usual message, "...link was abandonned...")
whereas Netscape won't.  When printing from WebEx, everything
is shifted to the right (so much in fact that sometimes, lines
are clipped).  Netscape prints OK.  And finally, I can copy
selected text in a web page under Netscape (can't do that under
WebEx).

The only good thing about WebEx is the drag'n'drop of URLs.  But
it is my understanding that the latest beta of Netscape (along with
the win95 shell) can do that as well.  Hard times for users of OS/2...

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Quote:>Well, as much as I hate to say it, printing under Netscape (in
>a win-os2 session) is much faster than WebExplorer under OS/2.
>For some reason it looks like WebEx is using my printer (24 pins,
>epson LQ-500 compatible) in graphical mode while Netscape is
>using some text mode.  Yet, the output of both is similar in
>quality.

This is printer dependent. On my system, Web Explorer from OS/2 prints
faster and with better quality than Netscape on Linux on the same system
and printer........

Quote:>Now, if printing speed was the only factor I would
>probably go with WebEx rather than a windows app, but there are
>other problems as well.  WebEx will often *under heavy SLIP
>traffic (with the usual message, "...link was abandonned...")
>whereas Netscape won't.

Not true here.....Netscape 1.1N on Linux will give up on a link after
about 1 minute. It isn't the SLIP that is heavy.....it is the site you are
trying to access being busy.....

Quote:>When printing from WebEx, everything
>is shifted to the right (so much in fact that sometimes, lines
>are clipped).  Netscape prints OK.  And finally, I can copy
>selected text in a web page under Netscape (can't do that under
>WebEx).

Web Ex to a Lexmark 4039-16L PCL5 laser is fast, correct and crystal
clear. You may have a problem with your printer dirver. If you are
using the OMNI.DRV you should either try a later fixpak, or use the
EPSON drivers on printer disk 1.....the *real* EPSON driver. If you need
help installing them, let me know.

Quote:>The only good thing about WebEx is the drag'n'drop of URLs.  But
>it is my understanding that the latest beta of Netscape (along with
>the win95 shell) can do that as well.  Hard times for users of OS/2...

I can' drag/drop pics to/from netsape, either.....or specify the number of
image threads......

Glad to Netscape is catching with OS/2. But they aren't forthcoming with
a native OS/2 version.......have they been knobbled?

I say that because they have versions for various weenie platforms, but not
for the OS that is second only to Windows 3.1.

Steve

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Steve, try Netscape on Windows before claiming it's printer dependent.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Windows version worked much better than
the Linux version, since Windows seems to be their primary platform.

     - Mike

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Quote:>>>Well, as much as I hate to say it, printing under Netscape (in
>>>a win-os2 session) is much faster than WebExplorer under OS/2.
>>>For some reason it looks like WebEx is using my printer (24 pins,
>>>epson LQ-500 compatible) in graphical mode while Netscape is
>>>using some text mode.  Yet, the output of both is similar in
>>>quality.

>>This is printer dependent. On my system, Web Explorer from OS/2 prints
>>faster and with better quality than Netscape on Linux on the same system
>>and printer........

>Steve, try Netscape on Windows before claiming it's printer dependent.
>I wouldn't be surprised if the Windows version worked much better than
>the Linux version, since Windows seems to be their primary platform.

Ok how is this.. Just for you!

Pentium 133 EISA/PCI 32 Meg

Canon BJ-330 LPT1

OS/2 Warp Connect v3.0 - Webexplorer v1.02

Time to print http://www.ziff.com/ = 45 seconds , Time until I got system
control back = 1 seconds

Windows 3.11 "Same system"

Time to print http://www.ziff.com/ = 2 minutes 03 seconds, Time until I got
system control back = 1 minute 45 Seconds.

Windows 95 Gold "Build 950R6" "Same System"

Time to print http://www.ziff.com/ = 1 Minute 56 Seconds. Time until I got
system control back = 5 Seconds

OS/2 and WebExplorer print faster for me, Notice print pritary for OS/2 was
set at medium to low, I am shure if I gave it more pritary it would print
faster but I ain't in no hurry to get printed infomarion.

Notice: Printing to network printer was a LOT faster in OS/2 Warp Connect.

||--------------------------------------------------
||         John Heater - Team OS/2


|| IP - 204.120.81.37 || Name - jheater.fast.net
||        *** Running WARP Connect ***
||        *** Have you used BART today? ***
||--------------------------------------------------

Could you try Netscape under win-os/2, just for comparison?
And do you have access to a dot matrix printer?  Maybe WebEx works
better with Laser printer and Bubble jet printer.

Quote:>>When printing from WebEx, everything
>>is shifted to the right (so much in fact that sometimes, lines
>>are clipped).  Netscape prints OK.  And finally, I can copy
>>selected text in a web page under Netscape (can't do that under
>>WebEx).
>Web Ex to a Lexmark 4039-16L PCL5 laser is fast, correct and crystal
>clear. You may have a problem with your printer dirver. If you are
>using the OMNI.DRV you should either try a later fixpak, or use the
>EPSON drivers on printer disk 1.....the *real* EPSON driver. If you need
>help installing them, let me know.

Thanks for the suggestion, with the epson driver the printing is much
more centered (I wish I could adjust the space on the left; I've
looked in the settings for the printer and the left shift is already
at 0.00; it won't take negative value).  On the other hand, printing
is still slow.  For some reason, under os/2 WebEx prints a line in
chunks (print about 1 inch, pause, print 1 inch, pause, etc; by pause
I mean less than 0.05 sec) whereas Netscape makes the printer head go
from left to right without stopping.  It's like comparing graphics
mode printing to text mode printing.  I've tried a couple of other
printer drivers (compatible with my old citizen gsx-140) and it's the
same problem in all cases.  So I guess that it's WebEx which is simply
less efficient with dot matrix printers than Netscape.

//

// Ph.D. student             phone: (514) 398-6506
// High Energy Physics
// McGill University, Montral, Qubec
//
// Using OS/2 Warp...and soon NT 3.51.
//
// "...puisses t-il me donner la force de te dsar?onner et
// d'un seul coup d'pe te faire nouveau traverser la mer."
//                    Le Roi Arthur, dans Excalibur.

I noticed that Steve said he's using a PCL5 printer.  In that case,
Netscape under Linux will be sending PostScript data to the print
spooler, which will be passing it through GhostScript to come up
with PCL data.  As the default GhostScript fonts aren't all that
great, the result won't look too great.

Of course, Steve could take the Type 1 fonts from Warp and install
them on GhostScript.  It would still take a while to print, but it
would look good.

Matt

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