How to use EISA boards on a 715/33

How to use EISA boards on a 715/33

Post by Gereon Wenze » Tue, 29 Apr 2003 23:06:49



I'm new to HP-UX so i need to ask the experts.
I have an HP HVD SCSI board (HP 25525?)installed in the box, but don't
get it recognized
by the machine running HP-UX 10.2.
Actually there are no devices attached yet, but SAM lists only the
onboard SCSI.
tried to add some additional EISA stuff to the kernel to get it
recogniced,
but no success yet.
What tasks are needed to make EISA boards work?

Gereon Wenzel
www.eisapc.de

 
 
 

How to use EISA boards on a 715/33

Post by Paul Weissman » Wed, 30 Apr 2003 05:46:33



> I'm new to HP-UX so i need to ask the experts.
> I have an HP HVD SCSI board (HP 25525?)installed in the box, but don't
> get it recognized

Is it a HP 9000 board?

Quote:> by the machine running HP-UX 10.2.
> Actually there are no devices attached yet, but SAM lists only the
> onboard SCSI.
> tried to add some additional EISA stuff to the kernel to get it
> recogniced, but no success yet.

What exactly did you configure in the kernel?

Quote:> What tasks are needed to make EISA boards work?

You probably just need the proper driver for the board.
It is very well possible that stock HP-UX does not support
this board.

Maybe on the Application CDs.

        - paul

 
 
 

How to use EISA boards on a 715/33

Post by Gereon Wenze » Tue, 06 May 2003 21:55:27


Paul Weissmann schrieb:


> > I'm new to HP-UX so i need to ask the experts.
> > I have an HP HVD SCSI board (HP 25525?)installed in the box, but don't
> > get it recognized

> Is it a HP 9000 board?

> > by the machine running HP-UX 10.2.
> > Actually there are no devices attached yet, but SAM lists only the
> > onboard SCSI.
> > tried to add some additional EISA stuff to the kernel to get it
> > recogniced, but no success yet.

> What exactly did you configure in the kernel?

> > What tasks are needed to make EISA boards work?

> You probably just need the proper driver for the board.
> It is very well possible that stock HP-UX does not support
> this board.

> Maybe on the Application CDs.

Had another short look.
the board is a 25525A, its listed supported for HP-UX 10.20,
but i'm not sure if its working in my 715/33?
Found two docs at docs.hp.com about the driver to use.
One lists 'sctl' another one 'eisadisk' but where to find these?

Gereon

 
 
 

How to use EISA boards on a 715/33

Post by Rick Jone » Wed, 07 May 2003 02:51:36


The 25525A appears to have first shipped in 1991 with the original
snakes workstations (the 7[235]0s), gone of the HP CPL back in 1993,
with its five year support ending in 1998.  Looks to have implemented
differential SCSI (narrow differnetial, not wide IIRC).

I forget when the 715/33 went on the CPL. Not sure if that card would
have been supported in that machine (independent of being supported by
the 10.20 OS).  The EISA bus in the 715/33 adhered to the EISA
standard, but did not conform to common EISA practice.  I seem to
recall it doing something called "cycle stretching" (iirc running the
EISA bus at 25 MHz) and that would make some cards upset.  I recall
that we had to make a rev "C" of the EISA Ethernet interface to
support that system.  

Digging further (ah the joys of internal search tools :) - it does
seem that the 25525A was listed as a supported I/O card for the
715/33.  Of course, that same product support plan lists the "A"
version of the EISA Ethernet LAN card.  The trouble with the card was
discovered after launch of the 715/33.

The 715/33 seems to have first shipped not too terribly long before
the 25525A went off the CPL. Not sure how much would have been done at
that point to resolve problems with that card if any were found.

I remember very little about getting EISA peripherals to work.  IIRC
the SCSI driver for the differential SCSI was the same driver as the
internal SCSI, but for EISA periphs there needed to be the "EISA"
drivers and the .cfg files installed.  Those would typically some with
the card.  Not sure if those got bundled with 10.20 or if they
remained on one of the DART CDs.

rick jones
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How to use EISA boards on a 715/33

Post by Bill » Wed, 07 May 2003 07:47:25


Isn't there an eisaconfig command or somethinglike that ?? But you
still need the driver and kernel configured.

On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:06:49 +0200, Gereon Wenzel


>I'm new to HP-UX so i need to ask the experts.
>I have an HP HVD SCSI board (HP 25525?)installed in the box, but don't
>get it recognized
>by the machine running HP-UX 10.2.
>Actually there are no devices attached yet, but SAM lists only the
>onboard SCSI.
>tried to add some additional EISA stuff to the kernel to get it
>recogniced,
>but no success yet.
>What tasks are needed to make EISA boards work?

>Gereon Wenzel
>www.eisapc.de

 
 
 

How to use EISA boards on a 715/33

Post by Alan Johnso » Wed, 07 May 2003 11:31:09



> Isn't there an eisaconfig command or somethinglike that ?? But you
> still need the driver and kernel configured.

> On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:06:49 +0200, Gereon Wenzel

>>I'm new to HP-UX so i need to ask the experts.
>>I have an HP HVD SCSI board (HP 25525?)installed in the box, but don't
>>get it recognized
>>by the machine running HP-UX 10.2.
>>Actually there are no devices attached yet, but SAM lists only the
>>onboard SCSI.
>>tried to add some additional EISA stuff to the kernel to get it
>>recogniced,
>>but no success yet.
>>What tasks are needed to make EISA boards work?

>>Gereon Wenzel
>>www.eisapc.de

eisa_config(1M) will config the board if it recognizes it. If you dont
have a 10.20 install CD for the driver let me know I can send you the
driver, got lots of old 9.x, 10.20 and 11.x CD's.
 
 
 

How to use EISA boards on a 715/33

Post by Gereon Wenze » Wed, 07 May 2003 16:27:02


Alan Johnson schrieb:


> > Isn't there an eisaconfig command or somethinglike that ?? But you
> > still need the driver and kernel configured.

> > On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:06:49 +0200, Gereon Wenzel

> >>I'm new to HP-UX so i need to ask the experts.
> >>I have an HP HVD SCSI board (HP 25525?)installed in the box, but don't
> >>get it recognized
> >>by the machine running HP-UX 10.2.
> >>Actually there are no devices attached yet, but SAM lists only the
> >>onboard SCSI.
> >>tried to add some additional EISA stuff to the kernel to get it
> >>recogniced,
> >>but no success yet.
> >>What tasks are needed to make EISA boards work?

> >>Gereon Wenzel
> >>www.eisapc.de

> eisa_config(1M) will config the board if it recognizes it. If you dont
> have a 10.20 install CD for the driver let me know I can send you the
> driver, got lots of old 9.x, 10.20 and 11.x CD's.

OK.
Found out myself, but the hint was in the right direction.
Problem was the user not the machine btw...
After eisa_config complained the machine not having a EISA backplane at
all
i opened the box and reseated the adapter.
Powered up and there it is.

Next problem are the disks:
just having HVD wide disks (ST-15xxxWD, ST-32550WD, C2490, all hp
labeled)
and some adapters from wide/SCA to narrow.
Without any Terminaion none of the disks is detected by
ioscan -f
But what Terminator do i need?
Is a HVD narrow sufficient, or do i need a HVD wide to terminate
the upper bits of the drive properly too?
And where to find these (Europe/Germany preferred)?
Just found a single offer on ebay.de
They might be still availiable at hp, but i don't want to spend
as much for the terminator as for the machine (EUR 10,-)

Gereon Wenzel

 
 
 

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