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by **xinodabean** » Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:11:06

I have a 735 and it has a connector on the back I'm not familiar with,
hopefully someone can tell me a little about it.

It is on the lowest of the 3 center slots, where the BNC video connector is
on other 735's I've seen. Maybe this is somekind of connector for a
terminal?

It is a long white slot, like a centronics type connector, but much thinner
about 1/3rd the height. It almost looks like a cross between a centronics
scsi connector and a 68pin scsi connector.

If this is a terminal connector what kind of terminals should I try to use?

If this is not a terminal connector, do hp's default to serial port A as a
terminal, and what are, or where can I find out the terminal settings, etc.

Also, a 2nd question, what are the memory chips/cards they use
called? This one has just 48meg of ram, and I would like to track down
some extra for it.

Thanks!

by **David L. Harfs** » Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:35:36

> I have a 735 and it has a connector on the back I'm not familiar with,
> hopefully someone can tell me a little about it.

> It is on the lowest of the 3 center slots, where the BNC video connector is
> on other 735's I've seen. Maybe this is somekind of connector for a
> terminal?

> It is a long white slot, like a centronics type connector, but much thinner
> about 1/3rd the height. It almost looks like a cross between a centronics
> scsi connector and a 68pin scsi connector.

Doesn't sound familiar. How long, how narrow, and how many pins?

Quote:
> If this is a terminal connector what kind of terminals should I try to use?

> If this is not a terminal connector, do hp's default to serial port A as a
> terminal, and what are, or where can I find out the terminal settings, etc.

Those vintage HPs had to me manually set in the boot menu. If there's no
graphics card, it is probably set to serial A.

Quote:
> Also, a 2nd question, what are the memory chips/cards they use
> called? This one has just 48meg of ram, and I would like to track down
> some extra for it.

Go to http://www.kingston.com and look it up there. I just found it very
quickly. 128MB, Kingston part #KTH700/128, $473

--
David L. Harfst Computerized Medical Systems
Senior Systems Engineer St. Louis, Missouri

by **Florian Anwande** » Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:34:50

Hi

Quote:> Also, a 2nd question, what are the memory chips/cards they use
> called? This one has just 48meg of ram, and I would like to track down
> some extra for it.

735 and 735/125
A1979A-add 16M (two 8MB SIMMs)
A2512A-add 32M (two 16MB SIMMs)
A2646A-add 64M (two 32MB SIMMs) - obsolete>

Florian
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by **Jack Perd** » Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:45:06

>If this is not a terminal connector, do hp's default to serial port A as a
>terminal, and what are, or where can I find out the terminal settings, etc.

If they haven't been changed from default, then it should be,
IIRC, 9600-8-1-no, no flow control (SW or HW).

jack

by **Mike** » Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:36:11

What it sounds like you have is an external color video system. I have
one of the external boxes and no card or cable. What is the part
number on the board?

This graphics system had some odd name. I will dig mine out and get
the part number.

This could be an interesting find :)

It is not a terminal connection for sure.

Mike N

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:11:06 -0500, "xinodabeano"

>I have a 735 and it has a connector on the back I'm not familiar with,
>hopefully someone can tell me a little about it.

>It is on the lowest of the 3 center slots, where the BNC video connector is
>on other 735's I've seen. Maybe this is somekind of connector for a
>terminal?

>It is a long white slot, like a centronics type connector, but much thinner
>about 1/3rd the height. It almost looks like a cross between a centronics
>scsi connector and a 68pin scsi connector.

>If this is a terminal connector what kind of terminals should I try to use?

>If this is not a terminal connector, do hp's default to serial port A as a
>terminal, and what are, or where can I find out the terminal settings, etc.

>Also, a 2nd question, what are the memory chips/cards they use
>called? This one has just 48meg of ram, and I would like to track down
>some extra for it.

>Thanks!

by **Mike Dombrows** » Mon, 23 Apr 2001 06:23:01

Heyaz all. Howabouts HIPPI? Some people made HiPPI cards for the
graphics bus of 735s. I'm not too familiar with their physical
connects but it's a possibility.

Mike

>What it sounds like you have is an external color video system. I have
>one of the external boxes and no card or cable. What is the part
>number on the board?

>This graphics system had some odd name. I will dig mine out and get
>the part number.

>This could be an interesting find :)

>It is not a terminal connection for sure.

>Mike N

>On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:11:06 -0500, "xinodabeano"

>>I have a 735 and it has a connector on the back I'm not familiar with,
>>hopefully someone can tell me a little about it.

>>It is on the lowest of the 3 center slots, where the BNC video connector is
>>on other 735's I've seen. Maybe this is somekind of connector for a
>>terminal?

>>It is a long white slot, like a centronics type connector, but much thinner
>>about 1/3rd the height. It almost looks like a cross between a centronics
>>scsi connector and a 68pin scsi connector.

>>If this is a terminal connector what kind of terminals should I try to use?

>>If this is not a terminal connector, do hp's default to serial port A as a
>>terminal, and what are, or where can I find out the terminal settings, etc.

>>Also, a 2nd question, what are the memory chips/cards they use
>>called? This one has just 48meg of ram, and I would like to track down
>>some extra for it.

>>Thanks!

by **xinodabean** » Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:07:56

ok, roughly, I can't find my ruler....

approx 30 pins. There are three rows of pin-contact points inside the
connector, top row is against the top of the connector, a 2nd row against
the back of the connector, then a 3rd row along the bottom surface of the
connector
Its about 2 inches wide, and about 3/10's of an inch high.

The chips on the card are small non-descript, about 3 or4 types of chips,
on the board itself most of the chips have a label next to them, U1 through
U49, and then there are several yellow chips labled RP1 through RP11. I
can't really find any sort of a name or indication on the card, here are a
few numbers......

C-3306-RT
3446-0020

40RT7G0020

A2091-66580 Rev C

Also, 4 red blinken lights inside the board, labeled CR1, you could only see
them when mounted inside the system if you already knew they were there.

Is there a place on hp's site you can search part numbers, I looked last
time I was at the site, but could not find anything.

pretty neat beasts.

> > I have a 735 and it has a connector on the back I'm not familiar with,
> > hopefully someone can tell me a little about it.

> > It is on the lowest of the 3 center slots, where the BNC video connector
is
> > on other 735's I've seen. Maybe this is somekind of connector for a
> > terminal?

> > It is a long white slot, like a centronics type connector, but much
thinner
> > about 1/3rd the height. It almost looks like a cross between a
centronics
> > scsi connector and a 68pin scsi connector.

> Doesn't sound familiar. How long, how narrow, and how many pins?

> > If this is a terminal connector what kind of terminals should I try to
use?

> > If this is not a terminal connector, do hp's default to serial port A as
a
> > terminal, and what are, or where can I find out the terminal settings,
etc.

> Those vintage HPs had to me manually set in the boot menu. If there's no
> graphics card, it is probably set to serial A.

> > Also, a 2nd question, what are the memory chips/cards they use
> > called? This one has just 48meg of ram, and I would like to track down
> > some extra for it.

> Go to http://www.kingston.com and look it up there. I just found it very
> quickly. 128MB, Kingston part #KTH700/128, $473

> --
> David L. Harfst Computerized Medical Systems
> Senior Systems Engineer St. Louis, Missouri

by **Alexander Bouck** » Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:08:54

Quote:>A2091-66580 Rev C

This is the Part-Number of the internal card for the CRX48Z graphics
subsystem. You will need an external box (about the size of a desktop PC)
with this. It is a 48plane, 24bit, 3D accelerated (no OpenGL) system, which
was quite expensive, about 10000$ some 6 year abo I think.

Regards,

Alexander

by **Brendan Newpor** » Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:10:00

Quote:> I have a 735 and it has a connector on the back I'm not familiar with,
> hopefully someone can tell me a little about it.

> It is on the lowest of the 3 center slots, where the BNC video connector
is
> on other 735's I've seen. Maybe this is somekind of connector for a
> terminal?

> It is a long white slot, like a centronics type connector, but much
thinner
> about 1/3rd the height. It almost looks like a cross between a centronics
> scsi connector and a 68pin scsi connector.

> If this is a terminal connector what kind of terminals should I try to
use?

> If this is not a terminal connector, do hp's default to serial port A as a
> terminal, and what are, or where can I find out the terminal settings,
etc.

> Also, a 2nd question, what are the memory chips/cards they use
> called? This one has just 48meg of ram, and I would like to track down
> some extra for it.

> Thanks!

I recently went through the routine of trying to connect my laptop PC to my
735 via the serial port (I don't have a HP monitor, just an SGI one which I
use through an Xquery session.

By default the RS 232 ports won't accept a console. However a HP engineer
here in the UK advised me to follow a somewhat drastic expedient;

with the power off (and unplugged!) take out the grahics card. Yep, unscrew
the thumb screws and take the entire card out.

Then attach via a minicom (in Linux) or Hyperterminal (for Windoze) and
start-up the 735.

This was sufficient to start the OS, check how it was build, kthen rebuild
the workstation from a CD drive.

by **xinodabean** » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 02:19:01

Quote:> >A2091-66580 Rev C

> This is the Part-Number of the internal card for the CRX48Z graphics
> subsystem. You will need an external box (about the size of a desktop PC)
> with this. It is a 48plane, 24bit, 3D accelerated (no OpenGL) system,
which
> was quite expensive, about 10000$ some 6 year abo I think.

> Regards,

> Alexander

Interesting, thanks.
I'll check google then maybe ebay..........

by **Dave Fel** » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 02:54:32

I have one of these - its the connector which feeds a shielded ribbon cable out
to an A2667A color graphics unit - a separate box, ribbon cable in, and RGBS
BNC's out. SAM says its a CRX24Z - 24 bit color graphics unit. HTH..

> I have a 735 and it has a connector on the back I'm not familiar with,
> hopefully someone can tell me a little about it.

> It is on the lowest of the 3 center slots, where the BNC video connector is
> on other 735's I've seen. Maybe this is somekind of connector for a
> terminal?

> It is a long white slot, like a centronics type connector, but much thinner
> about 1/3rd the height. It almost looks like a cross between a centronics
> scsi connector and a 68pin scsi connector.

> If this is a terminal connector what kind of terminals should I try to use?

> If this is not a terminal connector, do hp's default to serial port A as a
> terminal, and what are, or where can I find out the terminal settings, etc.

> Also, a 2nd question, what are the memory chips/cards they use
> called? This one has just 48meg of ram, and I would like to track down
> some extra for it.

> Thanks!

by **David L. Harfs** » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 03:44:10

Probably be cheaper to find a self contained CRX graphics card
for the thing. I don't remember if the 48Zs came that way, but
all of our 735s have a CRX24Z that has no external box.

> > >A2091-66580 Rev C

> > This is the Part-Number of the internal card for the CRX48Z graphics
> > subsystem. You will need an external box (about the size of a desktop PC)
> > with this. It is a 48plane, 24bit, 3D accelerated (no OpenGL) system,
> which
> > was quite expensive, about 10000$ some 6 year abo I think.

> > Regards,

> > Alexander

> Interesting, thanks.
> I'll check google then maybe ebay..........

--
David L. Harfst Computerized Medical Systems
Senior Systems Engineer St. Louis, Missouri

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