: > This is the continue of my previous Q: "what is the consequence of
: > moving the SYSTEM login directory?".
: > I wonder : Are there some one else running the VMS
: > system with their SYSTEM account moved?
: > Anyway, I am the one who has this setting. Up till now, we hadn't
: > observed any releated problems yet. Of course, we have quite some
: > of commands file for adapting the command that assume the SYS$MANAGER
: > as defalt directory. And have the SYS$MANAGER:LOGIN.COM moved also.
: > Any comment are welcomed.
: Do not do it !
: You will experience all kinds of weird problems with software installation
: and software startup procedures, that was not written to handle this.
I've had the SYSTEM account sys$login set to sys$sysdevice:[sysmgr] a couple
of systems for quite a while and I have installed numerous DEC layered
products and multiple third-party product. I have never seen any weird
problems with either software installation or software startup. Care to
list any specific software that has problems with this?
: And I can not beleive that the benefits can outweigh the risk for serious
: problems. The system-managers personal stuff do not belong on the SYSTEM
: acoount, but on a seperate personal account. Good system-managers have
: a distinct risk aversion (they only take risks if there are significant
: benefits, and eventhen they do not like it !).
One major (IMHO) benefit is that sys$login is then a single directory
consistent for all nodes in a cluster. I don't have to remember to make
sure my files are in sys$common instead of sys$specific for other nodes
to see them.
Good system managers do have a distinct risk aversion. Given that there are
several routine operations that require system privs to operate and that the
system account was designed to these operations, I use the system account on
a daily basis. I prefer to work in an area that will not*up the system
startup files if a mistake is made.
Dr. Douglas O'Neal, Senior Systems Programmer, Johns Hopkins University
"Hypothetical questions get hypothetical answers" - Joan Baez