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Anyone understand what makes Tim Rue tick?

Does Tim have any goals in life other than pissing Usenet users off?

: Anyone understand what makes Tim Rue tick?

 Yes, he likes it when he is flamed or when he thinks he is being flamed so
he can respond back.

: Does Tim have any goals in life other than pissing Usenet users off?

 I think that about covers it.

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Sure... you're mainly seeing the result of his mental disorder.  

He appears to be suffering from Personality Disorders, which are evidenced
by an enduring pattern of inner experience and behavior that deviates
markedly from the expectations of the individual's culture.  

Personality D/Os result in ways of perceiving and interpreting himself,
others, and events which are quite divergant from most people.  His
affectivity (range, intensity, and appropriateness of emotional response)
is quite extreme.  Interpersonal functioning becomes quite difficult.  And
impulse control is usually impaired.

Also, the pattern is inflexible and pervasive across a broad range of personal
and social situations.

The enduring pattern leads to significant distress or impairment in social,
occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

The pattern is stable and of long duration and its onset can be traced back at
least to adolescence or early *hood.

Rue appears to have 2 separate Personality D/Os, Narcissistic Personality D/O
and Paranoid Personality D/O.  

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by:  (At least 5 to
diagnose)

1. Grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and
talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensiurate
achievements.)

2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance,
beauty, or ideal love.

3. Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood
by or should associate with other special or high-status people.

4. Requires excessive admiration.

5. Has a sense of entitlement,i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially
favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.

6. Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to
achieve his or her own ends.

7. Lacks empathy

8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or
her.

9. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors and attitudes.

Paranoid Personality Disorder is characterized by: (At least 4 to diagnose)

1. Suspects without sufficient basis that others are exploiting, harming, or
deceiving him or her.

2. Is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or
trustworthiness of friends or associates.

3. Is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear that the
information will be used maliciously against him or her.

4. Reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign remarks or
events.

5. Persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults, injuries, or
slights.

6. Perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that are not
apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to counterattack.

7. Has recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding fidelity of
spouse or * partner.

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> Does Tim have any goals in life other than pissing Usenet users off?

Positive or negative doesn't matter... it's attention and 'interaction.'
People with his social skills don't have many RL outlets.  Ever notice
that the inane threads he starts always end up being about him?  Not a
coincidence.

Hope this helps.

greenie

I usually keep out of TR related postings but I have my own
speculation: He's an Dark Sun AD&D world dwarf, and thus has a life
focus, and unless he can succeed in it, he will became a banshee after
his death.

Clearly his focus is to be the most uncoherent person ever.

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: No, I was just kidding about spending thousands of my hard earned money on
: an investment in a computer platform and belief in myself to cause a
: return not only for myself but any company I work for doing so, and causing
: additional sales for the platform, to the benefit of the company producing
: the platform.......
:
: But NOBODY TOLD ME THAT THE COMPANY WITH THE PLATFORM (regardless of who
: that company may be or become) AND EVEN THE INDUSTRY DOESN'T WANT THIS TO
: HAPPEN!
:
: SOOOOOoooooooooo.. Who is the *S that left that out of the manual?
:
: Me want flames? Or is that just the excuse the manual writers have TODAY
: for my discovering and *ing about their oversight.
:
: Yesterday it was "Jee tim, we don't understand." Or is that theme being
: continued here?
:
: GEee DaVey can you spell VIC? How about "genuine honest and fair income
: opportunity for the user."?
:
: Ot do you still believe in the pyrimid scheme that allows for one person
: near the top to say "NO I don't care about the many more below me."?
:
:
: So maybe you want to know what my zion codes are.*u, you have your
: own.
:
:
Well done on /such/ a rational response.
:

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Quote:> Hope this helps.

Yes it does, thank you very much. It is convincing and i totally agree
with your conclusions.

But even if the source of the problem is described now (people in here
suspected this much all along, even without having the benefit of
education and knowledge in psychology), what i would like to hear are
the possible ways of reacting to the posts of Mr. Rue.

This NG clearly has a problem here, the source being Mr. Rue and all the
people responding to him in more or less frequent ways. The traffic
generated centers mostly on Mr. Rue spewing forth some statement about
VIC with the purpose of promoting his idea and people telling him that
they already heard enough of it, combined with efforts to tell him that
he is simply wrong. Reactions provoked in Mr. Rue are showing evidence
of the truth of your analysis.

So what is in need is some way of dealing with the mental disorders of
Mr. Rue, is it wise to tell everyone to ignore him? This is difficult at
most, because Newbies tend to react to his postings and most of his
illusions are quite an offense to educated people. But which way of
answering his postings will get the results wanted? I myself tried to
reason with him on a technical basis, trying to enhance his concepts and
tell him about the branch of Information Technology which centers on
approaches similar to his own. I failed miserably, he had not been able
to accept the fact that even if his ideas are basically neat, his
general concept is not thought through and indeed his approach is quite
an old one and resulting from this his later conclusions are painfully
wrong. Others tried to tell him that his provocative ways are not wanted
in here, some are simply killfiling him and tend to complain about the
amount of answers his trolling generates.

What is in need here is a solution for the problem, can you hint the NG
to an acceptable way of dealing with his disorders?

My idea has been to implement a general csam FAQ, describing which
behaviour is to be tolerated and which is not. A poll would decide about
the acceptance of such an FAQ, which could be sent to Newbies and
annoyances like Mr. Rue. If these people are unwilling to accept these
rules, the FAQ could be sent to the ISP of these persons, along with the
offending posts.

My opinion is that it makes a difference if people singulary complain or
are stating that an accepted set of rules has been violated. Most ISPs
included such statements in their posting guidelines (e.g. Earthlink).

Difficulty here is to generate a set of rules acceptable by the majority
of the people in here but the effort could be worth it. Netiquette are
the general set of guidelines for the Internet, something more precise
would be needed here.

But even with this tool at hand, will it convince someone like Mr. Rue
that he is indeed not wanted in here or will he continue to search for a
way of posting into the NG? If this would be the case, the effort of
building such an FAQ is nearly wasted. Even if it would buy some free
time between his attempts with a new ISP. And maybe this is the most we
can expect from any given solution :(

I really would like to hear your opinion about some possible solution to
this problem, with this accurate description given, you seem to be able
to help.

Quote:> greenie

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Frank Brandau

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How about persuade every newsreader company to have a default killfile
setting? :)

I do recall the screen shots of the new Microdot II where Vapor had
Tim's name in the killfile settings in that screen shot, was I wrong???

: How about persuade every newsreader company to have a default killfile
: setting? :)
:
:
I seem to remember that he came from FidoNet.

I suggest ignoring him.  I don't have KillFile capability in either of
my browsers, so I just skip over all his posts.  Especially since I
noticed AWeb actually lists the number of lines in a post.  So if you
see a great many 100+ line posts you tend to remember the person
responsible.  But I mainly feel sorry for the Eurpean users that pay for
metered ISP access.  It's got to cost a lot of money over time to d/l
all those lengthy rants.  I'd be pretty damn resentful if I was in the
same position.

OK, it's not perfect.  Because I end up seeing a post of someone else
replying to him if I'm interested in the thread.  But that's better than
reading through thousands of lines of postings..........joe