(Thorne Kontos) writes:
Quote:>> Tell me Marc, what is it that Apple has that I can't get on a clone
>> for less.
> 16-bit 48Khz stereo audio input
> 16-bit 48Khz stereo audio output
> A 55Mhz (or 66Mhz) AT&T 3210 DSP
> NTSC/PAL/SECAM video input
> NTSC/PAL video output
> and more importantly...
> Standardized OS software to use all of the above.
The only person in our house that can hear over
25Khz (approx) is the dog.
"Standardized" is a very malleable term. Especially
when the new _standardized_ OS doesn't work well with
programs made for the last _standardized_ OS.
Quote:> You could add the above to an Amiga or clone, but you would have
>absolutely *NO* software to make it useful.
I know what you mean. It really bums me out that the
GVP GLock, the GVP IV-24, the GVP EGS board, the Sunrise
AD516 digitizer, the Video Toaster, the Retina, the
Audio Magic digitizer, the Digi-View Gold, the Piccolo,
and the OpalVision don't come with any software at all.
What do these people think they're doing? Selling
( For those not paying attention, I've used sarcasm >;-\ )
Quote:> People have been asking what Apple would become when they started to
>become just another vendor of PowerPC systems. What Apple will become is
>what Commodore once was: a vendor of systems with innovative features in
>standard hardware than you can get on other systems. For instance, Apple
>will likely keep most of the above capabilities in their PowerPC systems
>(though the first PPC Macs won't have a DSP, later ones likely will).
Apple releases a flavor of the week. For all we (this includes you) know,
the next Mac will come with a built-in, 40 character wide, thermal printer
that doubles as a toilet paper dispenser. i.e. Apple has released some
Mac variations with improved video and memory throughput and then later
turned around and released new computers with inferior subsystems (to cut
costs, not to be innovative.)
Quote:> Commodore used to be like this. For a long time, the Amiga was very
>attractive because it came with good graphics, sound, etc.. all in standard
>hardware. But then Commodore released the AGA Amigas and it all went to
How does AGA*it up? With better graphics throughput? (Darn, I hate
improved graphics. >;-) ) Properly written software (ProWrite, ADPro,
GfxBase X11) will open AGA screens despite the fact these programs were
released before AGA machines were available. ECS changed the specs of the
Amiga graphics subsystems, so why didn't the Amiga world go to hell then?
If it's game compatibility you're worrying about then go get a KS 1.3
A500, but productivity software runs better than ever before.
Quote:>>At least the Amiga has the VideoToaster
> Yeah, what a really wonderful job that that has done to Commodore's
>sales!! Commodore is in such horrible shape they can't even afford to fund
>development of RTG. So much for the Video Toaster. It is an innovative
>piece of hardware, and has done a lot for NewTek, but it has done NOTHING
>for Commodore at all.
I Imagine it helped Commodore unload a few warehouses of A2000s. Actually,
Commodore cost reduced the 2000 motherboard, and installed 2.1 on it after
the introduction of the 3000, so I imagine they still were selling quite
a few 2000 and I know NewTek had something to do with that.
Quote:> What sets apart the Amiga line besides inflated hardware price? The
>Amiga doesn't have inflated software prices because it has NO software,
Tell me, do you go to bars and yell racial slurs just to get attention?
Professional Page, Professional Draw, PageStream, TypeSmith, Art Expression,
ProWrite, ProVector, Design Works, QuickWrite, QuarterBack, QuarterBack
Tools Deluxe, Brilliance, Deluxe Paint IV, DigiPaint III, Imagine, Real 3d,
Caligari, LightWave, Directory Opus, Arexx, CanDo, AmigaVision, SAS/C,
Aladin 4D, Pixel 3D professional, Interchange, Final Copy II, PenPal,
Proper Grammar II, Cygnus Ed Professional, Adapt 680x0 assembler, GigaMem,
Atalk III, GP Fax, ProCalc, CrossDos, CrossPC, ProCalc, Scala, Montage,
WaveWrite, WaveMaker, AnimWorkshop, SBase Professional, VistaPro, Distant
Suns, Scenery Maker, FractalPro, ScapeMaker, TerraForm, Visionaire, Art
Department Professional, Morph Plus, NeuralPro, Migraph OCR/OCR Jr.,
GfxBase X11, EnLan DFS, Anim Magic, and Morphus to name, but a meager percent.
There isn't a body alive who has time to learn to use all the above software
effectively (I know cause I've tried), so I'd say it would be a fairly accurate
estimate that the Amiga has some software available.
Should I throw in the contents of Fred Fish?
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