> Thanks for the input - yes, I see now how to create a new
> layer - but I still can't get the drawing thing to go.
> I don't want to use the edge mechanism because I really
> want to learn how to draw - the book says there is this
> thing called GFIG, but all it says is to "invoke GFIG",
> but I do not see any button or option for INVOKE - so
> I am stuck trying to figure that one out.
> As to bezier,
> it does make a curve of sorts, and you can shape it,
> but it just isn't intuitive like just letting me draw
> a series of dots and then putting a smooth curve through
You can draw a set of dots and lines between them.
Use either the pencil (on the main menu) or the
paintbruch (not the pen).
Click the first point. Move to the next.
Hold down shift and a line will appear.
Now click. You should choose the size brush
Besier is nicer! Smoothable. Remember, you can
adjust the tangent handles on the point separately
by holding down shift.
Quote:> And I can't seem to get bezier to finally stop -
> if I select a different tool then all the work I did
> goes away!
Bezier is for closed curves. Click on the starting point
to close the curve. Then click inside to select the region.
Then EDIT|TRACE to trace the curve. If, accidentally,
you click somewhere else and don't want to lose your
work (it has happened to me, too), on the layers toolbar
there is a PATHS tab. There may be several paths. Select
the one you were working on. At the bottom are icons.
One is to convert the path to a selection. If the path
is not closed, it will join the last point to the first
to close it.
Drawing on a transparent layer on top of the image lets
you ajust the Bezier curve quite accurately. If you have
a curve that is not closed, just close it up any old way
and later, after using EDIT|TRACE, just erase the part
you don't want.
Quote:> I am used to working with mspaint, and this
> interface is very frustrating. Why does it not give me
> a full set of pixels to work with? I ask for 800X600
> and it only gives me about half that, and then it
> clumsily creates partial lines - why?
Where did you ask for 800x600? The image can be 800x600
and displayed at a different size. You can use the equal
key to zoom in, the minus key to zoon out.
The "1" key to show it at the number of pixels you chose
(did you go through FILE|PREFERENCES on the main menu?).
Quote:> I don't understand
> this interface. You start out with a giant screen divided
> into two parts, and this initial screen seems to be quite
> worthless - as soon as you start to do any work by selecting
> a new drawing, all you get is a *y little overlay and
> the big initial screens are just there like dummies.
What two parts? What giant screen? What size canvas?
Have you got it set for auto resizing?
You should have one screen and some toolbars (you can have
lots of separate toolbars), unless you open another image
in which case you get another image window.
Quote:> How do you get GFIG? How do you get a big canvas with
> the exact number of pixels you ask for? How do you get
> the pixels you turn on (as with bezier) to TAKE (stay on
Select an image window. Right click. FILTERS|RENDER|GFIG
This is a separate editor. It does not work on the image.
You create an image there, choose a scale (or scale to
the full image size) (the scale to image slidebar)
choose your brush size (the brush tab) and use the PAINT
button in GFIG. It will draw it onto the current layer.
It may be best to create a new transparent layer on top
and paint it on that so you can crop it, move it, etc.
To get an image of a given size,
Main tool menu:
FILE|NEW and choose the number of pixels.
You can show that at 1-1 sizing (press the "1" key)
or zoom in or out.
Quote:> If anyone can talk down at the mspaint level,
> well maybe my experience with mspaint leaves me way too
> primitive - I don't know. The thing about mspaint is - it
> would do what I want if it would allow for an option to draw
> a curve connecting a series of dots and allow for bi-layers
> so I could trace over a given bmp. I am reading the GIMP manuals
> (both the user's guide and the stoking), but they seem to
> expect me to already be experienced with photoshop but I
> have only useed mspaint.
The GIMP interface is ... something it takes some work
to get familiar with (in the kindest terms).
It has freehand and line drawing tools and Bezier selection
(and you can use EDIT|TRACE to draw the Bezier curve once
you have selected the Bezier region). You can have different
sized layers on top of layers on top of layers, some transparent,
some not ... you can create a very confusing collection of
layers which produce just what you want.
GIMP is powerful, but its interface is confusing.
Quote:> But thanks for the help - I'll keep struggling,
It will be a struggle for awhile. Once you can find the
tools (like GFIG) and know what they do, you can do a lot