You have a good point.Quote:> It seems to me that often these days when print shops say they have added a
> "digital press" they are referring to a machine that prints CMYK. This
> means, that if your customer's job is designed to print PMS 124 and PMS
> 511, what will end up being printed will be roughly C0M27Y100 and
> C83M100Y69. Neither of these colors will match comparable printing using the
> Pantone inks.
Now, depending on the gamut of the inks used by that digital press, you
may be able to combine those inks in a custom manner so as to better
simulate the spot color itself.
And in fact, that's what's happening with digital presses nowadays.
They generally have a color gamut far wider than SWOP, for example, so
are able to combine their inks and get a much better CMYK representation
of that spot color than a standard SWOP press. And the RIPs are
programmed to do just that.
Again, look at the whole job and see what makes sense overall.
Really? The quality thing surprises me. The "sheen" issue doesn't.Quote:> Additionally, from all the output I have seen from these
> machines both at trade shows and at various print shops, the quality does
> not approach that of the spot color printing, including the fact that there
> is always a sheen to the digitally printed work, even if it is printed on
> dull coated or uncoated stock. As a designer, I find this textural
> difference distracting, and so do many of my clients.
Anyway, the world, it's a changin'. Trust me.
Those presses frequently also have the problem of being strictly CMYKQuote:> Of course, the other kind of "digital press" may use direct to plate
> technology, digital controls for the ink fountains, and such. So that even
> though the finesse is still handled by a (hopefully seasoned) press
> operator, there is precision and control in how that operator controls the
> press. Such presses are not in fact brand new. I have been on jobs running
> off such presses for years now. They are generally very expensive machines,
> and not in the domain of print shops whose clients bring them files produced
> in Microsoft Word, or Publisher for that matter.
devices, as you described above.
And the print houses that have these presses are large, but you know
what? They get the Word/Publisher requests from their customers, also.
And they DO NOT turn away work. They figure out how to handle it within
They'd sooner die than allow a good customer to go somewhere else even
for a piddly little job that probably costs more to run than the
customer pays and is a pain in the rear to run. It's called customer
service. Those houses serve their customers and give their customers
absolutely no reason to go anywhere else for anything.
Xerox DocuColor 2000 series. Someone finally broke out of the "it's aQuote:> That said, I also would like to know what the "damned impressive simple to
> use digital press" that you are referring to is. And why are you being so
> coy about the next great thing? ;-)
color copier" game and moved up to creating a next generation digital
As for the next great thing, it's not out yet. But if you poke around,
you'll see what it is. Nobody's being particularly coy about its
existence and scheduled arrival time, just the details. But the people
who need to know this, already do know. Those are the people running
their businesses and making plans for buying equipment and scheduling