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>>I need a very inexpensive 3D card, PCI, for a PC.  Any suggestions?  Looking
>>to spend around $50.  Maybe 16 MB RAM.

> Look for a TNT something or even better a Kyro-based card. The Kyro can be found
> in cards made by Hercules, Vivid and others - try searching for Kyro using
> www.pricewatch.com or a similar service.

> Regards

> Bruno

>>I favor TNT, kyro's drivers suck, NVIDIA's rock.

> TNT is very slow compared to Kyro, and the drivers don't suck at all. Of
> course, you'll find a guy here and there with a Kyro that is an absolute
> *, but isn't that true for any video card? It's certainly true of
> Nvidia's cards and drivers.

> One thing is certain though, that Nvidia does not offer the level of driver
> support for the TNT, as Imagination Technologies does for the Kyro. Nvidia's
> drivers are TNT *compatible*, they are not TNT *optimized*, and will
> therefore perform less than optimally.

>  Bye!
> /HB:

> According to PriceWatch, OCIE.com has an Inno3D 32MB GF2MX200 PCI for $59.
> This card is *way* faster than the TNT or Kyro (I, not II, I assume?)
> mentioned elsewhere in this thread, and has up-to-date driver support.  It
> may be a few bucks more, but definitely (IMO) the way to go.

> --
> Mike Smith

> According to PriceWatch, OCIE.com has an Inno3D 32MB GF2MX200 PCI for $59.
> This card is *way* faster than the TNT or Kyro (I, not II, I assume?)
> mentioned elsewhere in this thread, and has up-to-date driver support.  It
> may be a few bucks more, but definitely (IMO) the way to go.

> --
> Mike Smith

> According to PriceWatch, OCIE.com has an Inno3D 32MB GF2MX200 PCI for $59.
> This card is *way* faster than the TNT or Kyro (I, not II, I assume?)
> mentioned elsewhere in this thread, and has up-to-date driver support.  It
> may be a few bucks more, but definitely (IMO) the way to go.

> --
> Mike Smith

> -Lev

>>I favor TNT, kyro's drivers suck, NVIDIA's rock.

>>-Lev

> Now that is just total BS.

> I haven't had any problems with drivers for my KyroII (Which uses the same drivers as
> the Kyro based cards) in Windows98 or in Windows XP. In fact I find that they seem
> more stable and provide some nice features that the Nvidia drivers for my GeForce256
> doesn't. With the KyroII drivers you can set up different settings for individual
> applications if you wish so you can have one game use 4xFSAA and another one use no
> FSAA, the driver simply detects which game you run and then use your settings
> automaticly.

> Now I'm guessing you just an Nvidia fan-boy but if not feel free to let us know why
> you favor Nvidia drivers - surely it can't be because they "leak" new beta ones every
> other day or withhold features to aid marketing when they release new hardware. It
> seems to me that Nvidia is becoming just as bad as M$ and everything they accused 3dFx
> of back in the old days.

> Kind regards

> Bruno

> > I favor TNT, kyro's drivers suck, NVIDIA's rock.

> TNT is very slow compared to Kyro, and the drivers don't suck at all. Of
> course, you'll find a guy here and there with a Kyro that is an absolute
> *,

> > I was stunned (well, nearly) to find that framerates in Unreal
Tournament
> > dropped by a factor of around two when I "upgraded" from an old Voodoo
> > graphics 8mb PCI adapter to a shiny new GeForce2 32mb PCI card. How can
> > things get slower after 3 years(?) of hardware development?

> Shoddy programming. The Unreal engine wasn't designed for D3D/OGL to begin
> with, and even if things improved as the version numbers increased I'm not
> sure if performance ever catched up. Anyway, anything above 60fps is
pretty
> much wasted so does it really matter? :-)

>  Bye!
> /HB.