> As far as I know the Promise RAID controller does not force itself to be
> device that you must boot from.
> Most motherboards have an option in the BIOS for boot device order. You
> will normally have lots of options to cycle through which are bunched in
> threes like so: A,C,CDROM or A,C,SCSI. Just keep cycling through these so
> that the SCSI option is listed first.
> Now your PC will definately boot straight from the SCSI disk, regardless
> what other IDE drives you have installed.
> Some boards are even better, SuperMicro are by far the best. Their BIOSes
> have a list which you can put in whatever order you want.
> You don't have to worry about re-installing the SBS though. You could run
> it from the Promise controller in a mirrored fashion.
> Firstly install the promise card and the drives into the system. Enter
> BIOS on the Promise RAID controller and setup your RAID set. (In your case
> mirrored disks).
> Now boot up the SBS server and install the drivers for the promise card.
> Reboot the system again and ensure the the card has been recognised and
> that the MASTER drive on it can be seen from within NT. (Please note you
> will not be able to see the MIRROR drive from within the NT operating
> Now all you need is a copy of Norton Ghost or PowerQuest DriveImage. This
> software is really cool, although it does ghost around 40. However, Soyo
> bundle a free copy of Ghost with their motherboards, so if you know anyone
> who has a Soyo board then borrow their copy. Both of these bits of
> can fit on bootable floppy disks.
> Now you simply boot from the Ghost floppy and tell it to clone the SBS
> partition on the SCSI boot hard disk to the Master drive on the Promise
> (PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make sure that you copy the partition onto the
> disk. There is NO way of reversing this process if you copy over some
> you really needed to keep!)
> Once the partition has been copied, switch off the server and unplug the
> SCSI hard disks. Now switch on the server and SBS should boot up from the
> IDE drives on the Promise Controller giving you a completely mirrored
> I hope this helps
> Graham Payton
> PLEASE remember to check that you are copying the correct partition to the
> correct place before starting Ghost or DriveImage.
> > thanks a lot for your replies!
> > i'm stuck with the Promise RAID and four drives (unfortunately, i
> > but can i make it so i don't boot from them? can't i just throw them
> > and use them for the "file serving" part of the network (thereby freeing
> > a lot of space on the two SCSI drives) and then when there's enough
> > the SCSI drives, mirror them? Can the promise RAID be the non boot
> > array? I'd love to not have to move the sbs install
> > > I agree with Mals' suggestion.
> > > I love the Promise RAID controllers and would advise anyone with IDE
> > get
> > > one.
> > > However, you already have SCSI and to then get IDE would be a big
> > > step.
> > > The only drawback is that you cannot boot directly from a mirror disk
> > > created using NTs software fault tolerance. (This is something to
> > > mind as it kind of defeats the object of mirroring the disk in my
> > opinion.)
> > > It is possible to do so with a bit of fuss. Check out a previous post
> > from
> > > Chris Funk in this newsgroup on 16/08/2000. There is a great reply
> > > Larry Struckmeyer which lists all the relevant MS docs you will need
> > read
> > > about booting from an NT software mirror.
> > > If your two SCSI disks are big enough to cope with everything you want
> > do
> > > then make the mirror. If possible though try and spend the money put
> > aside
> > > for the IDE stuff on a hardware SCSI RAID card. Adaptec make a good
> > single
> > > channel PCI card. I believe that Mylex also make a very good card,
> > > have no experience with this one. As long as you don't live in the UK
> > > shouldn't cost you to much money. (We get robbed blind over here for
> > > everything!)
> > > I hope this helps
> > > Graham Payton
> > > > IMHO you are far better of with SCSI and NT's software raid, than
> > > based
> > > > hardware RAID. Assuming that the two current drives are identical,
> > > you
> > > > just need some more space, I would look at installing a pair of new
> > > > drives as a mirror set, transferring the data from your current
> > > > drive, and then creating a mirror form the two original drives. A
> > > pair
> > > > of SCSI drives will probably cost a little more than the Promise
> > > controller
> > > > and 4 IDE drives, but would perform far better.
> > > > --
> > > > Mal Osborne
> > > > MCSE Mensa
> > > > ** Note New Email Address! **
> > > > > I've got two SCSI drives in a server. For reasons well beyond my
> > > control,
> > > > a
> > > > > four drive Promise IDE RAID needs to be the new boot drives... Is
> > there
> > > > any
> > > > > way to move the files over without a complete reinstall.
> > > > > Do you think it's better to convince people that a different plan
> > might
> > > be
> > > > > better? They need the mirroring/spanning in the RAID for data
> > integrity
> > > > and
> > > > > right now the two SCSI drives just run as individual drives... Do
> > > > think
> > > > > it would be better to move the files off the second SCSI drive and
> > then
> > > > set
> > > > > it up as a NT mirrored RAID with the other SCSI drive? I think
> > > main
> > > > > concern is data integrity, so if that's possible I bet I could
> > them
> > > > on
> > > > > the plan. (They're still going to need the IDE RAID for storage,
> > bet)