CALL FOR DISCUSSION: creation of comp.lang.idl-pvwave
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This is to start a discussion about creating a group for a language
called either IDL or PV-Wave (depending on whom you buy it from).
Items to be discussed are primarily whether to create a new group, or
rename the existing comp.lang.idl (see fuller explanation below) and
the group name.
Proposed Name: comp.lang.idl-pvwave
Discussion period: Through June 1, 1990.
Charter: An unmoderated newsgroup for discussing the programming
language known as both Interactive [Data/Display] Language (IDL) and
PV-Wave (Precision Visuals Workstation Analysis and Visualization
Environment). Topics will be programming tips, techniques, and code
exchanges, either full programs or fragments. A program archive site
may be started; however that possibility will be discussed only after
the proposed newsgroup is formed, not during the current discussion
period. The proposed group is intended primarily to discuss numerical
analysis, imaging, scientific visualization, etc. *as performed using
the IDL/Wave language*; it is not intended to support discussions
concerning those topics directly, as groups already exist for those
purposes (e.g. sci.math.num-analysis).
Background: There exist 2 very similar forms of the same language, IDL
and PV-Wave. IDL is produced by Research Systems in Boulder,
Colorado; PV-Wave by Precision Visuals also in Boulder. PV-Wave is
derived from IDL, so for the purpose of this discussion they can be
considered the same language, which I will refer to as IDL/Wave. The
language is used both interactively and as a programming language for
data analysis/reduction, display of data by means of 2- and 3-D plots,
images, simple animation, etc. It runs on DEC and Sun workstations,
and perhaps others.
There currently exists the group comp.lang.idl, which was formed some
time ago apparently for the purposes of discussing the Interface
Description Language, which has other uses entirely than IDL/Wave. A
while ago a discussion started on that group as to what comp.lang.idl
was for. Three basic suggestions came out of that discussion: form a
completely new group; rename comp.lang.idl to comp.lang.idl-pvwave; or
use the group with its current name to talk about IDL/Wave. The last
is undesirable because of the lack of name identification, see below.
1) Create new group: The advantage is that we don't "hijack" somebody
else's group, and "wave" appears in the group name. The disadvantage
is that another low-volume group is created (the existing .idl group
has very little traffic, and most of that is now about IDL/Wave).
2) Rename existing .idl group to .idl-pvwave: Advantage is we don't
create another group, and "wave" appears in the group name;
disadvantage is we bother somebody else's group.
3) Don't do anything, just talk about IDL/Wave using .idl. Advantage:
easiest course of action, and we'll do this if we don't get enough
votes. Big disadvantage is the users of PV-Wave (not IDL) would never
realize that the group discusses their language, thus limiting its
This Call For Discussion does not constitute an endor*t of any
product or company.
Ralph Finch 916-445-0088
Any opinions expressed are my own; they do not represent the DWR