oooh oooh cool idea !

oooh oooh cool idea !

Post by Tom Matthews - Sun UK - PreSale » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00



Just had a mini brainwave,...

Could I buy a Japanese PalmVx (that come with 4mb ROMs)
and flash an English version of the operating system
over it...

To give me more of that oh so handy space in flash memory.

I am presuming that the Japanese and UK prices are fairly
similar, the Japanese one may even turn out cheaper...

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oooh oooh cool idea !

Post by Gunter Albrec » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00




Quote:>Just had a mini brainwave,...

>Could I buy a Japanese PalmVx (that come with 4mb ROMs)
>and flash an English version of the operating system
>over it...

Since there is nodody who manged to flash german OS3.5 to english OS3.5, I guess it'll be unlikely
one can manage to flash from j->e.

Quote:

>To give me more of that oh so handy space in flash memory.

The idea itself is great!

Quote:

>I am presuming that the Japanese and UK prices are fairly
>similar, the Japanese one may even turn out cheaper...

Last year I was in Japan and found the price of a V uhm.. a biiit higher than in Europe.
I'm wondering why TRG always uses the III as a platform, why not start to sell V-based models with
e.g. 2 or 4MB Flash?

Gunter

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Post by Jon Davi » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:> Could I buy a Japanese PalmVx (that come with 4mb ROMs) and flash an
> English version of the operating system over it...

I haven't actually seen a real Japanese Palm; but, the POSE emulator has
a 'skin' for it which shows different hardware buttons than the
equivalent US models.  That indicates that there are more hardware
differences than just the additional flash ROM.

Jon Davis

 
 
 

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Post by Tom Matthews - Sun UK - PreSale » Tue, 15 Aug 2000 04:00:00



> I haven't actually seen a real Japanese Palm; but, the POSE emulator has
> a 'skin' for it which shows different hardware buttons than the
> equivalent US models.  That indicates that there are more hardware
> differences than just the additional flash ROM.

If there were more buttons then that would be true,... but
how does changing the icons on the buttons necessitate
changing the hardware ?

I'm not flaming,.. just curious
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Post by Jon Davi » Tue, 15 Aug 2000 04:00:00


I'll have to correct myself.  I looked again at the Japanese 'skin' on POSE;
and, the hardware buttons are the same.  The difference is in the silkscreened
buttons.  In addition to the standard 4 silkscreened buttons (launcher, menu,
find, calculator), there are an additional 4 silkscreened buttons.  They have
Japanese characters on them; so, I don't know what they do.  I supposed they
have something to do with shifting for double-byte character support.  Due to
these additional silkscreened buttons, the graffiti input area is smaller;
although, it is still split in 2 parts (alpha and numeric).

Jon Davis



> > I haven't actually seen a real Japanese Palm; but, the POSE emulator has
> > a 'skin' for it which shows different hardware buttons than the
> > equivalent US models.  That indicates that there are more hardware
> > differences than just the additional flash ROM.

> If there were more buttons then that would be true,... but
> how does changing the icons on the buttons necessitate
> changing the hardware ?

> I'm not flaming,.. just curious
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oooh oooh cool idea !

Post by Lewin A.R.W. Edward » Tue, 15 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:> buttons.  In addition to the standard 4 silkscreened buttons (launcher,
menu,
> find, calculator), there are an additional 4 silkscreened buttons.  They
have
> Japanese characters on them; so, I don't know what they do.  I supposed
they
> have something to do with shifting for double-byte character support.  Due

to

They are probably for input method/kana selection. I would guess one is for
romaji, one for hiragana, one for katakana and one for direct kanji input (I
don't know much about HWR technology for kanji, but I think it would be
fairly easy to recognize the characters directly).

Given that they're all just spots on the same tablet, they aren't really a
hardware difference. With a US ROM, a Japanese Palm device would work fine,
and vice versa (though some guesswork required to find the hotspots when
running Japanese ROM on US screen :)

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Post by Arthur Hage » Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:24:05



> They are probably for input method/kana selection. I would guess one is for
> romaji, one for hiragana, one for katakana and one for direct kanji input (I
> don't know much about HWR technology for kanji, but I think it would be
> fairly easy to recognize the characters directly).

Not knowing much about Japanese at all, I would still find it reasonable
to assume that one of the choices would be the roman alphabet - japanese
people still have to enter email addresses and similar using roman
letters, don't they?

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Post by Daniel Jame » Wed, 16 Aug 2000 04:00:00




> > They are probably for input method/kana selection. I would guess one is for
> > romaji, one for hiragana, one for katakana and one for direct kanji input
[snip]
> Not knowing much about Japanese at all, I would still find it reasonable
> to assume that one of the choices would be the roman alphabet - japanese
> people still have to enter email addresses and similar using roman
> letters, don't they?

Quite right - "romaji" is what the Japanese call the Roman alphabet.

Cheers,
 Daniel.

 
 
 

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Post by Tom Matthews - Sun UK - PreSale » Wed, 16 Aug 2000 04:00:00


I've looked around for a while, but I cannot seem to find
a website that describes (in english) or sells these Japanese
Palm devices :(

Any ppl out there with a Japanese version ?
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Post by Steven D. Emme » Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:46:36


one can purchase software to enable the palm vx to read and write
japanese characters ... steve

On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:57:25 +0100, Tom Matthews - Sun UK - PreSales


>I've looked around for a while, but I cannot seem to find
>a website that describes (in english) or sells these Japanese
>Palm devices :(

>Any ppl out there with a Japanese version ?

 
 
 

oooh oooh cool idea !

Post by Tom Matthews - Sun UK - PreSale » Fri, 18 Aug 2000 04:00:00



> one can purchase software to enable the palm vx to read and write
> japanese characters ... steve

> On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:57:25 +0100, Tom Matthews - Sun UK - PreSales

> >I've looked around for a while, but I cannot seem to find
> >a website that describes (in english) or sells these Japanese
> >Palm devices :(

> >Any ppl out there with a Japanese version ?

Cheers Steven, but not really what I'm asking...
<g>

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1. A cool idea from a non-technical person...

I was recently talking to a doctor about handhelds. She doesn't use one, but
she sees all these other doctors and students using them, and she was aware
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information in the Palm until the program was run.

The best solution would be a modified set of PIM apps that looked at the
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Is there anything like that?

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