Very Computer

Hi,

I have a client that has already purchased 10 Windows 2000
Terminal Services CALS through Open License Program (OLP
NL).

He installed and activated the 10 licenses in its
corporate lan.

Now he wants to built 10 more small networks with:
1x Windows 2000 Server
3x Windows 2000 CALS
3x Windows 2000 Terminal Services CALS
Thin Clients as terminals

Every network will be autonomous with no connection to
the corporate lan, its own Terminal Services License
Server and own small Active Directory.

My question: Which is the right way for purchasing the
additional Terminal Services Licenses?

1. A single order for 30 additional TS CALS (OLP NL)
2. Multiple orders for 10x3 additional TS CALS (OLP NL)

Thanks in advance,

Christos

Christos:

You do not have to purchase CAL's for your W2K desktops to
use T/S: W2K Professional includes the T/S access
license.  You only have to activate your T/S Licensing on
the server (free from MS) and you're ready to go.

Your thin clients as terminals may be a different story.  
What is the physical setup you plan to use?

Aloha,
Miles

Pacific Computer Systems
Miles Baidack

Hi,

When using Thin Clients you have to buy TS CAL.

The setup for every-one of the small networks
will be the following:

3x Windows 2000 CALS OLP NL
3x Windows 2000 Terminal Services CALS OLP NL
3x Windows Based Terminals (Thin Clients) as Desktop
Devices

Servers will have installed their own Active Directory,
TS License Server.

Every TS License server must have activated 3 tokens,
each for every seat. A total of 3 License Tokens for
every of the 10 networks = 30 TS Licences/TS License
tokens.

My question: Which is the right way for purchasing the
30 additional Terminal Services Licenses and Activate
the tokens?

1. With a single order for 30 additional TS CALS (OLP NL)?
2. With multiple orders for 10x3 additional TS CALS (OLP
NL)?

Quote:>-----Original Message-----
>Christos:

>You do not have to purchase CAL's for your W2K desktops
to
>use T/S: W2K Professional includes the T/S access
>license.  You only have to activate your T/S Licensing on
>the server (free from MS) and you're ready to go.

>Your thin clients as terminals may be a different story.  
>What is the physical setup you plan to use?

>Aloha,
>Miles

>Pacific Computer Systems
>Miles Baidack

>.

If you are buying through a volume program you can buy them either way, just
do what makes sense for you.  If you buy them all together, you would just
use the same Open Agreement number for all of them, and specify a subset (in
this case 3) when it asks you for the quantity to apply to a particular
License Server.

If you buy them in retail (I know that's not what you asked, but for
completeness) then you would have to be a 5-CAL pack for each License
Server, as these can not be split up.

--

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Peter is too polite to say this, but since I don't work for Microsoft, I can..
:)

Retail licensing is probably the worst deal you can get.  It typically costs
more for fewer benefits.

As an IT person, Zervos, one of the best things you can do is find a decent
channel distributor who can help you with a lot of the licensing questions, so
you can focus on IT.  Finding a good distributor can take time - and I have no
clue where to tell you to start looking in Greece - but getting in touch with a
good one can make a lot of this simpler.

The whole licensing scheme has been simplified by Microsoft during the last 18
months to the point where an IT person *can* actually understand it, but the
role of the distributors is to help do that for you anyway.

But whatever you do, speaking from my last few years with this stuff, don't go
retail - get the Open Agreement.  You can go onto open license with as little as
5 separate product items; not 5 types of things, 5 licenses.

Thank you very much guys. You helped me very much.

Tell me Alex you are you working here in Greece?

Chris

Quote:>-----Original Message-----
>Peter is too polite to say this, but since I don't work

for Microsoft, I can..

Quote:>:)

>Retail licensing is probably the worst deal you can get.  
It typically costs
>more for fewer benefits.

>As an IT person, Zervos, one of the best things you can
do is find a decent
>channel distributor who can help you with a lot of the

licensing questions, so

Quote:>you can focus on IT.  Finding a good distributor can take

time - and I have no

Quote:>clue where to tell you to start looking in Greece - but

getting in touch with a

Quote:>good one can make a lot of this simpler.

>The whole licensing scheme has been simplified by

Microsoft during the last 18

Quote:>months to the point where an IT person *can* actually

understand it, but the

Quote:>role of the distributors is to help do that for you
anyway.

>But whatever you do, speaking from my last few years with

this stuff, don't go

Quote:>retail - get the Open Agreement.  You can go onto open

license with as little as
them either way, just

Quote:>> do what makes sense for you.  If you buy them all

together, you would just

Quote:>> use the same Open Agreement number for all of them, and

specify a subset (in

Quote:>> this case 3) when it asks you for the quantity to apply
to a particular
>> License Server.

>> If you buy them in retail (I know that's not what you
asked, but for
>> completeness) then you would have to be a 5-CAL pack
for each License
>> Server, as these can not be split up.

>> --

>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

and confers no rights.

No, I'm in the middle of Indiana; although a great town, Indianapolis can't hold
a candle to Athens or even Thessaloniki. :-)

Thank you very much guys. You helped me very much.

Tell me Alex you are you working here in Greece?

Chris

Quote:>-----Original Message-----
>Peter is too polite to say this, but since I don't work

for Microsoft, I can..

Quote:>:)

>Retail licensing is probably the worst deal you can get.
It typically costs
>more for fewer benefits.

>As an IT person, Zervos, one of the best things you can
do is find a decent
>channel distributor who can help you with a lot of the

licensing questions, so

Quote:>you can focus on IT.  Finding a good distributor can take

time - and I have no

Quote:>clue where to tell you to start looking in Greece - but

getting in touch with a

Quote:>good one can make a lot of this simpler.

>The whole licensing scheme has been simplified by

Microsoft during the last 18

Quote:>months to the point where an IT person *can* actually

understand it, but the

Quote:>role of the distributors is to help do that for you
anyway.

>But whatever you do, speaking from my last few years with

this stuff, don't go

Quote:>retail - get the Open Agreement.  You can go onto open

license with as little as
them either way, just

Quote:>> do what makes sense for you.  If you buy them all

together, you would just

Quote:>> use the same Open Agreement number for all of them, and

specify a subset (in

Quote:>> this case 3) when it asks you for the quantity to apply
to a particular
>> License Server.

>> If you buy them in retail (I know that's not what you
asked, but for
>> completeness) then you would have to be a 5-CAL pack
for each License
>> Server, as these can not be split up.

>> --

>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

and confers no rights.