Very Computer

Well, the subject already says it:

will NetBSD run on the Netwinder?

Can anyone comment on the amount of effort that would be needed to
make it run?

Marko

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http://kiste-5.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~marko

Check out the searchable mailing lists on NetBSD.Org.  There was some
discussion of this before.  If there is updated data on this, I would like
to be informed as well.  I'm going to be using a Netwinder as a base for a
wearable.  I'd love to run NetBSD on it.

Mark

: Well, the subject already says it:

: will NetBSD run on the Netwinder?

: Can anyone comment on the amount of effort that would be needed to
: make it run?

: Marko

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: http://kiste-5.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~marko

There seems to be only one thread from june 98 on Netwinder. Mark
Brinicombe claimed that he could get NetBSD up on the Netwinder in
about a day.

But I did not find anything new since then.

Marko
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http://kiste-5.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~marko

Netbsd is shipped with the Strongarm-based Chaltech CATS systems.
You can buy the complete system or just the motherboard.
You will get a much faster start if you buy the complete system.

http://www.chaltech.com

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David Feustel
Fort Wayne, Indiana
219-483-1857

: Netbsd is shipped with the Strongarm-based Chaltech CATS systems.
: You can buy the complete system or just the motherboard.
: You will get a much faster start if you buy the complete system.

: http://www.chaltech.com

Have you used this machine?  I'm very interested, but the web page does not
have such details as size, power, and *price*.  All very important for
wearables.  :)

Mark

The Chaltech CATS board is not wearable unless you compare favorably
in size with Clint Eastwood. I just got a CATS motherboard up and running.
I'm now trying to figure out how to bootstrap NETBSD onto the machine
since the CDROM I got from Chaltech either doesn't have a bootable
image or else the CDROM doesn't work as expected.

The CATS board is ATX form factor and has an ATX power connector.

The CATS board with no memory costs BP 320.
Airmail Shipping is ~BP 10.

My wattmeter indicates the running system is pulling ~44 watts
exclusive of monitor.

One problem is that the board comes with *no* hardcopy docs
and no docs at all for the boot loader as far as I have been able
to determine. It also boots very slowly compared to Intel chips,
but I don't know why yet.

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David Feustel
Fort Wayne, Indiana
219-483-1857

Either a) put a NetBSD disklabel and ffs partitions on an IDE disk, and copy
the files from the CD using another computer.
b) Boot over ethernet from another computer. On the server you need to set
up and run DHCPD, and set inetd.conf to allow tftp. Create a root directory
on the server and unpack bits from the CDROM into it. Now switch on the
CATS system and type:
boot ne0:
Now you can use disklabel, newfs etc to create the relavent disk layout.
Mount the new ffs partitions somewhere and copy files into them from the
server. Set up your /etc/* files, and reboot. This time use
boot wd0a:
or
set boot wd0a:
set autoboot
boot

Quote:> One problem is that the board comes with *no* hardcopy docs
> and no docs at all for the boot loader as far as I have been able
> to determine. It also boots very slowly compared to Intel chips,
> but I don't know why yet.

The bootloader emulates an x86 BIOS, so that PCI cards which contain some
x86 code to set themselves up will work. On my system it also waits for ages
trying to find the (non-existant) keyboard.

For a smaller ARM based PCI board, try the EBSA board from Intel.

        Andrew

No problem. ;>

Quote:

> The CATS board with no memory costs BP 320.
> Airmail Shipping is ~BP 10.

Whats a BP?  (More precisely, how many BEF is a BP)?

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  Chris Gray

BP is British Pounds. There is a pound sign in my character set but
I don't know what its numeric code is. What is BEF?

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David Feustel
Fort Wayne, Indiana
219-483-1857

Ah.  (I'm more used to GBP or UKP).  In that case a BP is about 60 BEF.
(BEF is Belgian Francs; "bef" is Dutch for cunninlingus).

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  Chris Gray