SVR4: bugs and bug fixes

SVR4: bugs and bug fixes

Post by w » Wed, 11 Sep 1991 23:39:40



The i860 Firebox machines made by PCS are  running  a  SVR4  Unix
that  is based on AT&T System V/860 Release 4 Source Code (Inter-
national Version Reference Port Product, 1991).

A large number of bugs (kernel as well  as  commands)  have  been
found  and  fixed  by PCS. They have been reported to AT&T on the
official channels.  Unfortunately  the  feedback  is  unsatisfac-
tory.

In each new release we find old bugs that have been reported long
ago and, of course, we find new ones.

I am looking for a news forum  to  discuss  these  problems  with
other  developers  who  are currently working with the same prob-
lems. I am pretty sure that I am struggling with bugs  that  have
been fixed by someone else, somewhere else long ago, but I do not
know about the fix, and vice versa.

We should start to speak about our results?  PCS  is  willing  to
share  its  knowledge  about problems with and its fixes for AT&T
SVR4 with other developers in the world. I want to know:

* Do we want to do it?

    If there is nobody interested in bug fixes for SVR4 it  would
    be  simply  a waste of bandwidth. There will be not very many
    members in this group since you usually will need  access  to
    source  code.  How  many  people are willing to contribute to
    this discussion?

* Can we do it?

    It seems to be not quite clear what  the  international  laws
    say  about  discussing material that is under copyright. Will
    there be any trouble if I post bug fixes using context  diffs
    against (copyrighted) AT&T code?

* How should we do it?

    What is the appropriate way for such a discussion? Should  we
    use  one  of  the  existing  news groups or create a new one?
    Should we use a mailing list?

Just waiting for your opinions

Wolfgang

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SVR4: bugs and bug fixes

Post by Jim Li » Thu, 12 Sep 1991 19:02:48



Quote:>* Do we want to do it?

I think that SVR4 users are very interested in the bug and
whether or not they can be fixed.  I certainly am.

Quote:>* Can we do it?

Unfortunately, most people in this group are not fortunate
enough to have SVR4 sources!  Thus, patch files for this
forum are probably not useful.

Isn't USL collecting bug-fixes and making them available
amongst the different vendors?  If so, this is the best
place for such patches.

Quote:>* How should we do it?

Even though source patches are useless for us users,
knowing about the bugs are important.  It would be useful
and interesting to me to see short descriptions of known
bugs, a brief explanation of how they were fixed (if they
were), and an announcement that other vendors can find
the patches at USL, or some other appropriate place.

Such information will be useful for anyone who has
encountered a problem which is covered by a bug fix.
Often vendors seem to brush off any bug reports, but
if a user comes to them with the information that the
big is known, and a fix has already been made, the
vendor can fix the problem quickly an easily.

Ideally vendors should provide binary patches on a BBS
similiar to what ESIX does.

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SVR4: bugs and bug fixes

Post by Jim Rosenberg (P » Fri, 13 Sep 1991 00:11:27


Just wondering -- is it possible to get the source to a version of the
Mach kernel out here in netville?

Thanks for the pointers...

James Rosenberg

 
 
 

SVR4: bugs and bug fixes

Post by Erik E. Fa » Mon, 16 Sep 1991 18:54:48


Such a discussion is best held in comp.bugs.sys5 - System V has had
bugs for years, and that newsgroup has been around for just as long to
report 'em, and post patches. Who knows - you might even be able to
get AT&T to listen in...


 
 
 

1. SUMMARY: SVR4: bugs and bug fixes

About two weeks ago I posted a request if SVR4 developers  should
cooperate  and  how  this  could  be  done.  Until  now  I got 19
responses, including  Intel,  AT&T,  Sony,  Commodore,  Generics,
Apple etc. They all express the same feelings and wishes:

Something has to be done to avoid reinventing the wheel again and
again.

Let's give it a try: I have set up a mailing list where everybody
who is interested has a  forum  to  communicate  with  other  de-
velopers who are working on SVR4.

If you are willing to share your knowledge about  SVR4  bugs  and
how to fix them or simply want to know about "known" bugs you are
welcome to join this list. To do so please send mail to


saying "please add me to the SVR4 mailing list". You should
include in this message:

        * your full name
        * your mail address
        * the name of the company you are working for
        * a statement if you have a source licence for SVR4 or not

This list is intended primarily for SVR4 developers - people  who
have access to the full source code whose job it is to trace down
and  fix  bugs.  So  if  you  are just an ordinary user (no flame
intended here) - *PLEASE* think twice if you really  need  to  be
put on this list (you will not be able to apply a fix if you have
no  source  code).  From  time  to time I will try to repost this
advertisement to comp.bugs.sys5 as  well  as  a  summary  of  the
traffic in the mailing list.

Wolfgang

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Name    :                                            Wolfgang Denk
Company :  PCS GmbH, Pfaelzer-Wald-Str. 36, 8000 Munich W-Germany.
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