Slow X performance on Alphastation 500 (333MHz)

Slow X performance on Alphastation 500 (333MHz)

Post by Paul Callagha » Sun, 22 Jun 2003 14:37:36



Hi,
After a bit of messing around I got Debian 3.0 installed on my alpha. The
problem now is that the speed of X is so slow, it is effectively unusable.
I've let it gather dust for a while, but would like to get it up and
running. The speed would be equivalent to running Redhat 5 on a Sun4c
(IPC!), maybe slower. I'm using a VGA card (trident), but the TGA card I had
was not much better. I've got 64M ram, which I thought may be the problem.
I've got 3 more 16M dimm to but in bank 2 for I can bring it up to 128M ram,
but I'm not sure which dimms I can use ? It says it uses 5V JEDEC ECC168 pin
dimms , so I was wondering if I could use sparc 4/5 dimms. They are 5V, 168
pin, fast page mode parity dimms. I'm in Australia, so it is a bit harder
for me to order from the US, otherwise I would just buy what I needed rather
than try to find some equivalent I can source locally.
Is Debian very slow with 64M ram? Could it be the video card (I had a matrox
millenium 1, but that seemed to be problematic on alphas from what I had
read). Could it be my ram is dodgey (it is the original ram)? Out of X,
speed is not noticebly slow,kernel recompiles are ~30min- 1hr, I haven't
done it for a while, so can't remember clearly (I complied TGA support into
the kernel)?

Does anyone run Netbsd or Freebsd on their systems? Are they Ok to use ? (I
used to run netbsd on pmax decstations - they even ran X much better than
what I'm seeing on my alpha)

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

Paul

 
 
 

Slow X performance on Alphastation 500 (333MHz)

Post by Paul Callagha » Sun, 22 Jun 2003 14:37:00


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Hi,
After a bit of messing around I got Debian 3.0 installed on my alpha. The
problem now is that the speed of X is so slow, it is effectively unusable.
I've let it gather dust for a while, but would like to get it up and running.
The speed would be equivalent to running Redhat 5 on a Sun4c (IPC!), maybe
slower. I'm using a VGA card (trident), but the TGA card I had was not much
better. I've got 64M ram, which I thought may be the problem. I've got 3 more
16M dimm to but in bank 2 for I can bring it up to 128M ram, but I'm not sure
which dimms I can use ? It says it uses 5V JEDEC ECC168 pin dimms , so I was
wondering if I could use sparc 4/5 dimms. They are 5V, 168 pin, fast page
mode parity dimms. I'm in Australia, so it is a bit harder for me to order
from the US, otherwise I would just buy what I needed rather than try to find
some equivalent I can source locally. Is Debian very slow with 64M ram? Could
it be the video card (I had a matrox millenium 1, but that seemed to be
problematic on alphas from what I had read). Could it be my ram is dodgey (it
is the original ram)? Out of X, speed is not noticebly slow,kernel recompiles
are ~30min- 1hr, I haven't done it for a while, so can't remember clearly (I
complied TGA support into the kernel)?

Does anyone run Netbsd or Freebsd on their systems? Are they Ok to use ? (I
used to run netbsd on pmax decstations - they even ran X much better than
what I'm seeing on my alpha)

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

Paul

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Slow X performance on Alphastation 500 (333MHz)

Post by Paul Callagha » Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:00:00


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Hi,
After a bit of messing around I got Debian 3.0 installed on my alpha. The
problem now is that the speed of X is so slow, it is effectively unusable.
I've let it gather dust for a while, but would like to get it up and running.
The speed would be equivalent to running Redhat 5 on a Sun4c (IPC!), maybe
slower. I'm using a VGA card (trident), but the TGA card I had was not much
better. I've got 64M ram, which I thought may be the problem. I've got 3 more
16M dimm to but in bank 2 for I can bring it up to 128M ram, but I'm not sure
which dimms I can use ? It says it uses 5V JEDEC ECC168 pin dimms , so I was
wondering if I could use sparc 4/5 dimms. They are 5V, 168 pin, fast page
mode parity dimms. I'm in Australia, so it is a bit harder for me to order
from the US, otherwise I would just buy what I needed rather than try to find
some equivalent I can source locally. Is Debian very slow with 64M ram? Could
it be the video card (I had a matrox millenium 1, but that seemed to be
problematic on alphas from what I had read). Could it be my ram is dodgey (it
is the original ram)? Out of X, speed is not noticebly slow,kernel recompiles
are ~30min- 1hr, I haven't done it for a while, so can't remember clearly (I
complied TGA support into the kernel)?

Does anyone run Netbsd or Freebsd on their systems? Are they Ok to use ? (I
used to run netbsd on pmax decstations - they even ran X much better than
what I'm seeing on my alpha)

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

Paul

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Slow X performance on Alphastation 500 (333MHz)

Post by Paul Callagha » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:23:00


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Hi,
After a bit of messing around I got Debian 3.0 installed on my alpha. The
problem now is that the speed of X is so slow, it is effectively unusable.
I've let it gather dust for a while, but would like to get it up and running.
The speed would be equivalent to running Redhat 5 on a Sun4c (IPC!), maybe
slower. I'm using a VGA card (trident), but the TGA card I had was not much
better. I've got 64M ram, which I thought may be the problem. I've got 3 more
16M dimm to but in bank 2 for I can bring it up to 128M ram, but I'm not sure
which dimms I can use ? It says it uses 5V JEDEC ECC168 pin dimms , so I was
wondering if I could use sparc 4/5 dimms. They are 5V, 168 pin, fast page
mode parity dimms. I'm in Australia, so it is a bit harder for me to order
from the US, otherwise I would just buy what I needed rather than try to find
some equivalent I can source locally. Is Debian very slow with 64M ram? Could
it be the video card (I had a matrox millenium 1, but that seemed to be
problematic on alphas from what I had read). Could it be my ram is dodgey (it
is the original ram)? Out of X, speed is not noticebly slow,kernel recompiles
are ~30min- 1hr, I haven't done it for a while, so can't remember clearly (I
complied TGA support into the kernel)?

Does anyone run Netbsd or Freebsd on their systems? Are they Ok to use ? (I
used to run netbsd on pmax decstations - they even ran X much better than
what I'm seeing on my alpha)

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

Paul

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1. FS: Dec Alphastation 500/500 Must sell

I agree,  not knowing in advance whether Linux will run on some
brand or type of PC has withheld me from buying one and using Linux,
I'd love to have a UNIX clone at home, and would gladly spend some
extra money to get a machine that's got X windows, a modem, POP/PPP,
a sound card etc. installed and working,  spending rare free hours
installing hardware and fixing installation problems just doesn't
attract me, and I think this is true for many other people.  

As for OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD, the same argument holds expect for the
fact that the user base of these systems seems (?) to be much smaller
than Linux's,  although I've heard some UNIX specialists in a company
I've worked for praise NetBSD over the commercial UNIX this company was
selling.  Also,  I don't understand why there have to be three competing
*BSD projects,  the Linux gang seems better at keeping proselytes and
dissidents involved in the main stream ..

While posting ..
Does anyone know Linux vendors (Intel or Alpha) that deliver in the
Netherlands or neighbouring areas (Belgium, Germany) ?  The closest one
I found so far is based in Austria,  bit expensive to drive by just to
pick
one up ..

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