: hello there,
: i'm still a student and was wondering where i could find an older dec
: alpha mainboard + cpu. are there any locations on the web where you
: can buy refurbished older dec alpha (3 years old)
: basicly it's intended to host a website and maybe do some firewalling.
: So older models would do just fine i think. do all alpha's run linux
: ?? can you use standard pci devices on dec alpha ? for instance if i
: have a 3com 10/100Mbit networkcard can i use it on the alpha
Philippe, the Alpha "mainboard + CPU"s that are out there are usually the
AXPpci33 or "noname", or the PC164 derivatives, like the LX and SX.
I've owned a NoName and am currently typing this on a PC164 system, both of
which I primarily ran Digital Unix/Tru64 upon, but ran Linux on both at
The NoName has 3 or 4 PCI slots (can't remember) and only 4 RAM slots - 72 pin
parity RAM is required.
My PC164 has 4 PCI slots and 8 72 pin SIMM slots.
The PC164LX and SX have three (I think) DIMM slots.
All of them have at least a couple of ISA slots too.
Your 3Com card should work just dandy with Linux - the Console firmware won't
know anything about it, so you won't be able to net-boot the machine to update
firmware, etc. but that's no biggie.
The NoName has on board SCSI, floppy, // and serial, but the serial ports are
kinda sucky. The PC164 boards are a little better in that dept.
You can usually find both types of boards for sale on ebay, etc.
- the NoName comes in several flavours - PS/2 or DIN kbd with either a 166MHz
or 233MHz CPU, the PC164s come with PS/2 connectors only and 366-533MHz CPUs.
The NoName's an AT layout, the PC164s are ATX.
Any of them should run at least a couple of DU, NT, Linux or OpenVMS if you
know what you're doing.
There are a few other types of board you might see, the EB64/EB66,etc.
but they were evaluation boards and aren't as thick on the ground.
Have a quick peek at http://www.alphalinux.org and use altavista/google if
you need more info.
Good luck :)
David Manchester, Workstation herder and USEnet voyeur.
"The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a
soldering iron, a hardware geek with a program patch & a user with an idea."
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