What ethernet card to use with noname board

What ethernet card to use with noname board

Post by Joe Novos » Fri, 29 May 1998 04:00:00



I have tried ne2000 and 3c503 with no luck.  3c503 will "work" but crashes
the system under a heavy load (ftp or printer job)

I have an intel eepro 10+/pci.  I have (currently) no drivers for it so I
don't know if it works or not.

I have access to an eepro 10+ isa if that will work.

Hardware:
noname running at 233 MHz
32M ram
256 cache
redhat 5.0
1G scsi disk

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

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What ethernet card to use with noname board

Post by Nils Faerbe » Fri, 29 May 1998 04:00:00


: I have tried ne2000 and 3c503 with no luck.  3c503 will "work" but crashes
: the system under a heavy load (ftp or printer job)
Why does the ne2000 not work?
I have a noname (166MHz) running just fine with a clone card. It is not fast
but it works.

: I have access to an eepro 10+ isa if that will work.
Dunno this one.

: Any help would be appreciated.
I would suggest to use the Tulip chip based cards (PCI) which are
distributed by Digital with their Alphas. OEM is for example ZNyX. They are
supported by the firmware and are real fast! Though they are not very
cheap :(

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What ethernet card to use with noname board

Post by Paul Englis » Fri, 29 May 1998 04:00:00




> : I have tried ne2000 and 3c503 with no luck.  3c503 will "work" but crashes
> : the system under a heavy load (ftp or printer job)
> : Any help would be appreciated.
> I would suggest to use the Tulip chip based cards (PCI) which are
> distributed by Digital with their Alphas. OEM is for example ZNyX. They are
> supported by the firmware and are real fast! Though they are not very
> cheap :(

What do you mean when you say, supported by the firmware? Does that mean
that the firmware allows you to network boot from that card, without a
boot prom installed on the card?

And also -- I find them cheap, at least relative to 3com cards.  For a PCI
10mbps card with twisted pair and BNC, I paid $40, (a little while ago),
when the equivelant 3com card would, I believe have cost about $70. My tulip
was the Kingston card, but there are several other companies which OEM/use
the tulip chip in their card.

Paul

 
 
 

What ethernet card to use with noname board

Post by John Wils » Fri, 29 May 1998 04:00:00




Quote:>I would suggest to use the Tulip chip based cards (PCI) which are
>distributed by Digital with their Alphas. OEM is for example ZNyX. They are
>supported by the firmware and are real fast! Though they are not very
>cheap :(

Netlux (www.netlux.com) has them for $36, I haven't tried one on an Alpha
but the Ethernet chip is a DEC 21140-AF, so it really *ought* to be compatible
with the DE500 right?  Their name is "Ether-100TX", not to be confused with
their cheaper noname chipset PCI Ethernet boards.

Nothing to do with them etc.,

John Wilson
D Bit

 
 
 

What ethernet card to use with noname board

Post by His Holiness the Reverend Doktor Xenophon Fenderson, the Carbon(d)ate » Fri, 29 May 1998 04:00:00


    PE> What do you mean when you say, supported by the firmware? Does
    PE> that mean that the firmware allows you to network boot from
    PE> that card, without a boot prom installed on the card?

The Alpha, being a Real Computer and all that, can bootstrap itself
using RARP/MOP or BOOTP as long as the firmware has a device driver
for the Ethernet card.  It doesn't need a silly little boot PROM wired
into the network device (I mean, really, that's kind of a broken way
to do things, in my mind).

Unfortunately, to network boot, you must use SRM, and your network
device must be recognized by SRM (do a `show device` in SRM and see if
it is listed).

And, while Linux supports diskless booting (see
Documentation/nfsroot.txt), I'm not certain as to what executable
format the kernel needs to be in to be MOP-bootable.  Maybe one of the
alpha.godz could clue me in, because I've scoured the HOWTOs and a
networked load of Linux isn't described.

(I imagine a diskless Alpha would have to suck pretty hard, but shoot,
netbooting the Linux installer sounds like a great way to get it onto
hard-to-boot systems like the Jensen, or Multias-sans-floppy drives
fnord.  For those of you with SRM, do a `SHOW EWA*' to check out all
the network booting options.)

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What ethernet card to use with noname board

Post by Bruce Alle » Fri, 05 Jun 1998 04:00:00



> I just got a DEC Tulib PCI 10/100 card, and I finally got around to compiling
> a new kernel(2.0.30) that has support for it. When I boot the Alpha, it finds
> the card, but it keeps giving me messages "eth0: initializing 10BT" and then
> "eth0: initializing 100TX" or something very similar(I don't have the system
> here with me). It keeps giving me those two messages the whole time the
> machine is running. I have a link to my hub, and all my equipment is 10BT. Is
> there a way to force it to use 10BT?

Look at the information on how we set up our DEC tulip cards, under the beowulf
link here. It shows how to compile various drivers so that it forces a particular
speed, duplex
mode, etc.

Bruce Allen

 
 
 

What ethernet card to use with noname board

Post by Joe Novos » Sat, 06 Jun 1998 04:00:00


Thanks for the input.  I got my ne2000 working.  Actually it worked all along,
but I had some other problems with my network.

I will eventually upgrade to a better (pci) card and possibly faster (100bt)

Thanks,
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