What about vi (or vim)? It is a part of standard Unix too but the
keystrokes (at least for exiting) make more sence. q! to really quit and
wq to write(save) and quit. I don't mind using quit when I want to exit
an application but q - for save and quit is stretching it (for me
I have been using computers for quite a few years - DOS, Windows, OS/2,
Linux and FreeBSD but when I was first presented with the options in the
subject of this message I was almost sure it was a mistake and was
tempted to use 'exit'.
> On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 02:33:02 -0500,
> >It's funny - two people gave me the same example - /usr/bin/mail - it
> >must be a killer app :)
> Many Unix apps don't save state, but still use quit to exit. Try
> nslookup, ftp, telnet (command mode), etc. What key do the likes of
> lynx or pine use to exit? What keystroke combo does Netscape use to
> exit? The rules for exiting change with every program.
Again - I am using Netscape instead of mail , lynx and pine.
> >In any case this is a small issue and I would not want to argue about
> >it. It appeared very odd to me that I have to use quit when I what to
> >save the disk info but it looks like I am in the minority.
> I guess it is one of those things that makes people go ``Unix is weird!''
Indeed. But while some weirdness could be explained - vi for example
(good for touch typing) some stuff could have been improved over the
years instead of saying - this is the way things have always been.
There is too much legacy stuff in unix to make part time users crazy. A
few days ago I downloaded Nedit - very nice editor with one weird
problem the Delete key worked exactly like the Backspace key. Now what
do I do - what is wrong - configure the shell? (set -o emacs did not
help) configure something in X Windows? Configure Nedit (how?) or ask a
question just to be told that this is the way Delete key is supposed to
work because you know in some terminal made year 69 the emulation blah
Now I feel better.
> William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada
> vi, the Gatling gun of editors;
> vim, the Tommy gun revision. http://www.vim.org