>>>I'm building a new system, coming from a Matrox G400 currently (which has
>>>rather poor GL performance).
>>>I want to play games under Windows 2000, and be able to use all the
>>>dual-head features and hardware GL support in Linux.
>>IMHO nVidia based cards are what to use for linux, the official nVidia drivers
>>from nVidia (not the one tha comes default with XFree86) preformes better on
>>linux than on microsoft windows. The driver does support all excisting TNT and
>>GeForce card out at the moment. The only problem can be video-in options, as
>>the support in V4L is quite limited and most cards with video-in seems to use
>>more or less "noname" chips for that.
>>Of course the nVidia driver supports TwinView, most people uses this option
>>for thier tv-out, the configuration is quite similare for monitor+tv-out as
> Great, thanks for the feedback! There's a (Creative) GeForce 256 DDR card in the
> RedHat 9 box in my cubicle at work. I installed the nVidia driver on it and the
> performance difference was amazing. I haven't had Windows on that machine for over
> a year so it's hard to compare but I do remember that Unreal Tournament 2003
> played very well under Win2K (it won't even load on my Matrox G400 Max at home).
Toms hardware did a test with the drivers last year. I think it still is quite
valide, as Linux does have quite good support for opengl, while microsoft
Quote:> I assume that the cards like the Ti4200/4400/4600 are even better than the GeForce
> 256, yes? Anyway, I can get an MSI made Ti4200 based card locally for about a
> hundred bucks
Yeah, more preformance with the 4x00 cards, but the FX cards except the 5800
has lower preformance than the 4x00, according Toms tests.
Quote:> so it seems like the way to go compared to a new Matrox card (the
> new P650 runs about $225 and I hear their 3D still isn't that great).
Matrox is mainly making 2D cards, don't think they ever will join the 3D
battle, there we will keep on seeing nVidia vs ATI at least a couple of more
Quote:> I only play games occasionally, but I do like to be able to... Tux Racer kicks
> *on the GeForce 256... :->
I don't play much myself, just Quake3 with the UrbanTerror2 mod (who wnats to
play CounterStrike when there is the original game and native for linux?).
Quote:> You mentioned "Twinview". Is this a driver or the hardware architecture itself?
> The PDF file on their site seems to indicate that it's the hardware architecture
> itself and only on "GeForce2 MX" and "Quadro2 MXR" cards.
Twinview is the nVidia name for Dualhead (two output connectors, like
monitor/tv-out). I haf twinview on my ASUS TNT card, so it's not limited to
GF2MX nor Q2MXR.
Quote:> What about configuring xinerama in XF86Config? I can read the manpage and hack it
> by hand but I've gotten spoiled by the Matrox Powerdesk. Does nVidia provide a
> simple utility (text or GUI ) for configuring twinview features?
I have xinerama enabled, I know some people have had issue with this, if I
remember things right, there is an option for the nVidia driver to turn this
nVidia don't provide any such tools, but there are some thrid party software
that does this for you, but sadly don't remeber names (myself I do edit by
"hand"), but you should be able to find those if you go to freshmeat.net and
search for projects that include the word nvidia.
Quote:> If you know of a web page that describes this stuff better, just point me at
> it...save yourself the hassle of typing it. ;->
Oh, I have seen some pages in my days, none of them have been good in my
opinion, got help from some guy on a forum that is no more, so I guess I'll
include part of my config here:
Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX (generic)"
Option "NvAgp" "1"
Option "TwinView" "TRUE"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT,TV"
Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-50"
Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
Option "TVStandard" "PAL-B"
Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
Option "TVOverScan" "1.0"
VendorName "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX (generic)"
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX (generic)"
NvAgp = type of agp driver to use
TwinView = enable/disable with TRUE/FALSE
ConnectedMonitor = type of monitors that is connected to the card
MetaModes = the resolutions to use, you can changes with
[Ctrl]-[Alt]-[Numpad +] or [Ctrl]-[Alt]-[Numpad -]
TVStandard = what tv standard to use (NTSC = US/Japan, PAL-x rest of the world).
TVOverScan = the smaller value, the more black border you will have on tv-out
The BusID ain't important to use, didn't have that line for a really long time
and everything worked fine, just added it while I was trying to resolve a
problem I got with XF86 (the whole problem was caused by the new glibc).
Not that picky, there are a couple of boards that have some problems, think
Quote:> Are they picky about motherboards? I'm planning on using an Asus P4-P800 Deluxe
> board (Intel i845PE Springdale chipset).
it's mainly SiS and KT133 boards that has an issue with the driver, but there
are suggestions how to get around the problem in the nVidia pdf (can be
downloaded from the same page as the driver).
I think you can use AGPx8 on that MB, if your new graphics card does support that.
no problem, it's nice to be to help for someone.
Quote:> Anyway thanks again for the feedback and any more info...