Dream Linux Platform!

Dream Linux Platform!

Post by Corey Brenn » Sat, 12 Feb 1994 11:31:09



OK... The dream Linux platform is... (ahem!):

        V-Tech SMP Dual-Pentium Motherboard
                PCI Local Bus Architecture
                1MB processor cache (each)

                66MHz Pentium Processors

        Adaptec SCSI-2 Fast Smart Caching controller
                16MB RAM

        2 (or more) Seagate ST12550 Baracuda 2.1G HD's

        IOMega SCSI-2 DAT (runs almost fast enough to be a drive!)

        NEC or TEXEL Triple-spin CD-ROM (or a WORM :-)

        Gravis Ultra-Sound Sound card w/1MB DRAM on board

        Some ultra-mega-horrendously-blindingly fast PCI video card

        Viewsonic 21" Flatscreen monitor

        etc., etc., etc.....

 
 
 

Dream Linux Platform!

Post by Evmorfopoulos Dimitr » Sat, 12 Feb 1994 21:08:53



> OK... The dream Linux platform is... (ahem!):

>    V-Tech SMP Dual-Pentium Motherboard
>            PCI Local Bus Architecture
>            1MB processor cache (each)

>            66MHz Pentium Processors

        I would hate to destroy your dreams, but the VTech machine is low end SMP
system availiable on the market right now. It is the only system with a unified
cache for both processors, making cache thrashing a usual "feature" of the system.
Admitedly, it is the cheapest one for the moment, but if I was in your shoes, I
would hold my breath for one of the good SMP machines like the Ambra, the ALR,
the Compag, or the haupage. These systems have separate caches for each
processor, and they use MESI or MOESIprotocols to keep those caches coherrent.
The VTech approach is cheap and seems like a simple way to beat the market, not a
way to increase performance. My dream machine would include everything else
except the VTech base.

        BTW.... Do you want to work in the development of SMP support for Linux ?

Quote:

>    Adaptec SCSI-2 Fast Smart Caching controller
>            16MB RAM

>    2 (or more) Seagate ST12550 Baracuda 2.1G HD's

>    IOMega SCSI-2 DAT (runs almost fast enough to be a drive!)

>    NEC or TEXEL Triple-spin CD-ROM (or a WORM :-)

>    Gravis Ultra-Sound Sound card w/1MB DRAM on board

>    Some ultra-mega-horrendously-blindingly fast PCI video card

>    Viewsonic 21" Flatscreen monitor

>    etc., etc., etc.....

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Post by Peter Herweij » Sat, 12 Feb 1994 21:21:33


 >OK... The dream Linux platform is... (ahem!):
 >
 >   V-Tech SMP Dual-Pentium Motherboard

What use is the second Pentium as long as Linux isn't multiprocessing?
Rather, the dream platform is _two_ such machines, one of which should
be given to Linus.  Expect multiprocessing to appear within a month :^)

 >           PCI Local Bus Architecture

---With a bugfree chipset.

 >           1MB processor cache (each)

Would that really buy extra speed?  (i.e., less waitstates)?

 >           66MHz Pentium Processors
 >
 >   Adaptec SCSI-2 Fast Smart Caching controller

*ho-hum* last thing I know is, the latest, greatest Adaptecs are still
not supported.

[...]
 >   Gravis Ultra-Sound Sound card w/1MB DRAM on board

The forthcoming Gravis MAX.

 >   Some ultra-mega-horrendously-blindingly fast PCI video card

Maybe currently a simple 928 with fast VRAM would be the best choice?
How mature are the other servers, exactly?

What networking card do we plug in?  Any vendor willing to sell this
machine for $5000 or less?

Peter Herweijer

 
 
 

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Post by Or » Sun, 13 Feb 1994 07:11:13




>OK... The dream Linux platform is... (ahem!):

[much deleted]

    Hmm.  Why not go right after the performance bottlenecks and
get something like a Cyrix M1 chip on a motherboard with 32mb of
5ns static ram?

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Post by Doug Merri » Tue, 15 Feb 1994 04:59:15


It's too easy to exercise wishful thinking on this topic; better is to
look at what constitutes a dream machine in terms of both features *and*
price, i.e. to try to find the knee of the price-performance curve and
get as much as possible for a reasonable price.

In this vein, a 486DX2 66 is preferable to a Pentium, because it's
fast, but is far more affordable than the Pentium (this month). The
486DX 50 might be preferable, because despite hype, simple logic says
that many non-benchmark real world applications may be memory intensive,
and the DX 50 should beat the DX2 66 for those. That choice also saves
a little bit of money, but not much. It also means a 50Mhz rather than
33Mhz motherboard, if I understand correctly, which should make a later
Pentium upgrade run faster. On the other hand, an upgrade to a speed
tripled 486 DX2 99 would work fine with the 33Mhz motherboard.

256K cache plus FPU looks worthwhile. 16M looks like the mandatory amount
of RAM. Less causes problems, more is a luxury.

I've been working hard at finding the knee of the curve for all items,
because I'm about to buy, and want the world but have a finite budget,
even though I'm prepared to push the envelope until it hurts (and wipes
out my savings and credit cards. :-) I'll end up downgrading some things
in order to save money for the sake of the more important items, but
skipping that:

Big fast disk: The Toshiba 1.2G drive is 12ms, slower than others, but
cheaper too ($850 at the best discount I've seen). Some 1.0G drives
may be available around $650, mail order.

Fast bus: PCI looks nice but it's too new. Not only is there a price
premium, but BYTE and the net both say that there can be problems finding
cards that use it, and in getting things to work right, and in finding
drivers, etc. Therefore VLB is still a big win for speed of video and
disk controllers (and one wants 2 to 3 VLB slots for such purposes).

Quality video: along with SVGA compatibility, 1280 x 1024 would be great.
I also want 24 bit color, but it's too expensive to get 1280 x 1024 x 24.
So compromise and get a card with 1280 x 1024 x 8 that can also give
800 x 600 x 24, accellerated, like the Orchid Celsius or the American
Megatrends VLB.  I'm unclear on Linux & X support for either the high
resolution, high colors, or accelleration, but I can always use SVGA mode
while hacking drivers.

If possible one wants a 17" monitor. Noninterlace is a must. So is support
for the maximum res of the video card. :-) Bigger than 17" would be great,
but too expensive. If I read correctly, 17" 1280 x 1024 can be had for
around $850, for a Viewsonic. I'm not positive that's NI, but I'm hoping.

Even that's still a bit steep, so one might drop back to either 15" (sigh)
or support for only 1024 x 768. That would allow dropping down to a cheaper
video card, and applying the money elsewhere.

A double-speed CDROM drive seems to be the smart buy these days; single
speed is too low end, and triple speed is still relatively pricey. That
may change by the end of the year.

For sound, the GUS (Gravis Ultrasound) looks nicest at first, but the
SoundBlaster emulation is in software rather than hardware. That might
be ok for Linux, but apparently there can be problems with DOS and Windows
games, and I'm always uneasy about s/w emulation anyway. My current
favorite is the OPL4 chipset, which gives 4 operator FM synthesis and
supports wavetable synthesis like the GUS, so that SB emulation is
done in hardware. The Toptek Golden Sound Pro 16 does all of that and
has other features such as onboard DSP, although again I might have to
do some driver hacking under Linux to get GUS-like support.

For backups and fast access to offline archives, magneto-optical disk
would be great (especially the 500M double sided Tahiti 2), and I may
go for it as a premium item, used. But DAT tape backup is closer to the
knee of the curve, for as little as $450, I think.

A number of these items would be best to get used when possible to
reduce the price, but I haven't found good sources as yet.

Any criticism, additional items, price comments, or bubble-popping
about compatibility or driver hacking?
        Doug
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Post by Jongyoon L » Tue, 15 Feb 1994 12:21:09



> It's too easy to exercise wishful thinking on this topic; better is to
> look at what constitutes a dream machine in terms of both features *and*
> price, i.e. to try to find the knee of the price-performance curve and
> get as much as possible for a reasonable price.
> In this vein, a 486DX2 66 is preferable to a Pentium, because it's
> fast, but is far more affordable than the Pentium (this month). The
> 486DX 50 might be preferable, because despite hype, simple logic says
> that many non-benchmark real world applications may be memory intensive,
> and the DX 50 should beat the DX2 66 for those.

Nah.  As long as locality principle holds, i.e. L1 cache miss at every cycle
doesn't occur, DX2-66 will be still faster.  Also, for 50MHz bus you'll
need at least 60ns RAM and well-built motherboard that doesn't exert
wait signal for memory operation.  If not, the memory access will be
as good as 25MHz.

Quote:> That choice also saves
> a little bit of money, but not much. It also means a 50Mhz rather than
> 33Mhz motherboard, if I understand correctly, which should make a later
> Pentium upgrade run faster. On the other hand, an upgrade to a speed
> tripled 486 DX2 99 would work fine with the 33Mhz motherboard.

You can't upgrade to a real Pentium. Period.  You might be able to upgrade
to P24T *if* it comes out.  Also, many modern motherboards have clock
synthesizers instead of clock crystals so that you can choose any bus speed
you wish to have.  If you have one of those, you can get DX2-66 now,
and change the bus speed to 50MHz if necessary when P24T becomes available.

[stuff deleted]

Quote:> Big fast disk: The Toshiba 1.2G drive is 12ms, slower than others, but
> cheaper too ($850 at the best discount I've seen). Some 1.0G drives
> may be available around $650, mail order.

Toshiba is big, but not fast.  The rotational latency is 1/60 = 16.66ms
which is greater than average seek time.  When you consider a gigger
you should look for at least 5400RPM model.  

Just get a 1.7 gigger.  It has 70% more storage spage than a gigger, yet
only about 30% more expensive.

Quote:> Fast bus: PCI looks nice but it's too new. Not only is there a price
> premium, but BYTE and the net both say that there can be problems finding
> cards that use it, and in getting things to work right, and in finding
> drivers, etc. Therefore VLB is still a big win for speed of video and
> disk controllers (and one wants 2 to 3 VLB slots for such purposes).

A motherboard is cheap.  Just use ISA+VLB until PCI price comes down to
current EISA.

Quote:> Quality video: along with SVGA compatibility, 1280 x 1024 would be great.
> I also want 24 bit color, but it's too expensive to get 1280 x 1024 x 24.
> So compromise and get a card with 1280 x 1024 x 8 that can also give
> 800 x 600 x 24, accellerated, like the Orchid Celsius or the American
> Megatrends VLB.  I'm unclear on Linux & X support for either the high
> resolution, high colors, or accelleration, but I can always use SVGA mode
> while hacking drivers.

No.  You can't even use SVGA mode for unsupported videocards such as Celsuis.
Just get a #9GXE and be happy.

Quote:> If possible one wants a 17" monitor. Noninterlace is a must. So is support
> for the maximum res of the video card. :-) Bigger than 17" would be great,
> but too expensive. If I read correctly, 17" 1280 x 1024 can be had for
> around $850, for a Viewsonic. I'm not positive that's NI, but I'm hoping.

Non-interlacedness doesn't tell you much.  60Hz is NI, but also flicker-prone.
When considering a 17 incher, you'll need at least 75KHz HSR for 1280x1024
at 70+Hz NI.  

The $850 Viewsonic you are mentioning is probably a Viewsonic 7 which is
an old model.  The new Viewsonic 17 costs ~$1000, and the new IBM 17"
with Trinitron costs less than $1300.

Quote:> Even that's still a bit steep, so one might drop back to either 15" (sigh)
> or support for only 1024 x 768. That would allow dropping down to a cheaper
> video card, and applying the money elsewhere.

I agree.  15" is still usable at 1024x768 at least for me.

Quote:> A double-speed CDROM drive seems to be the smart buy these days; single
> speed is too low end, and triple speed is still relatively pricey. That
> may change by the end of the year.

Single speed CDROM drive is history.  The low-end Mitsumi double speed is
priced less than $250 I think.  The price will continue to fall when Toshiba
comes out with 4x drive at down on earth price (unlike Pioneer).

Quote:> For sound, the GUS (Gravis Ultrasound) looks nicest at first, but the
> SoundBlaster emulation is in software rather than hardware. That might
> be ok for Linux, but apparently there can be problems with DOS and Windows
> games, and I'm always uneasy about s/w emulation anyway. My current
> favorite is the OPL4 chipset, which gives 4 operator FM synthesis and
> supports wavetable synthesis like the GUS, so that SB emulation is
> done in hardware. The Toptek Golden Sound Pro 16 does all of that and
> has other features such as onboard DSP, although again I might have to
> do some driver hacking under Linux to get GUS-like support.

ugh.  GUS? nice?  heh.  It doesn't even have MPU-401 emulation which is
de facto standard in MIDI world.  If you are considering MIDI, be sure to
check for MPU-401 smart mode support (Maui, Soundwave, etc).
I'd go for SB16 + Waveblaster or SB16 + Rio or SB16/PAS + Maui configuration.
to maximize sound quality and to minimize software driver hassle.

[stuff deleted]

Quote:> Any criticism, additional items, price comments, or bubble-popping
> about compatibility or driver hacking?
>    Doug

You seem to have missed a topic: modem.  Which 28.8K modem to get?
Heyes? Moto? Zoom? USR??

Jongyoon

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Post by Peter Herweij » Tue, 15 Feb 1994 21:51:34


 >[...] 486DX 50 might be preferable, because despite hype, simple logic says
 >that many non-benchmark real world applications may be memory intensive,
 >and the DX 50 should beat the DX2 66 for those.

Your logic is too simple still---this holds only on a very good motherboard.
A single cache wait state (which is very common at 50MHz) or lack of burst
mode (which is also sometimes enforced) will ruin the advantage.  Combine
this with the trickiness of 50MHz Local Bus (there's no such thing as 50MHz
VLB) and you probably see why a DX2/66 would be the better choice.

 >[...] Therefore VLB is still a big win for speed of video and
 >disk controllers (and one wants 2 to 3 VLB slots for such purposes).

Probably for SCSI controllers with two or more drives attached, or caching
controllers.  Not for plain IDE controllers.

 >Quality video: along with SVGA compatibility, 1280 x 1024 would be great.
[...]
 >If possible one wants a 17" monitor.  [...] Bigger than 17" would be great,
 >but too expensive.

In that case you can skip on the 1280x1024 if that saves a few cents,
because with a 17" you'll wind up using 1024x768 or 1152x900 anyway.  At
1024x768 an S3-805 videocard is sufficient in practice, which should save
you a few bucks.

 >For sound, the GUS (Gravis Ultrasound) looks nicest at first, but the
 >SoundBlaster emulation is in software rather than hardware. [...]
 > [...] The Toptek Golden Sound Pro 16 does [emulate SB in hardware] and
 >has other features such as onboard DSP, although again I might have to
 >do some driver hacking under Linux to get GUS-like support.

I don't know how much the Golden Sound costs, but remember that the SB 2.0
is dirt cheap these days; you can plug one in next to a GUS and have the
best of both worlds.  There's no need for a high end SB since it sounds
like a sick banshee anyway, and you'll probably be able to use your GUS
for the more demanding stuff (i.e. for everything but a few GUS-incompatible
games).

Peter Herweijer

 
 
 

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Post by Steve O'Hara-Smi » Wed, 16 Feb 1994 03:42:37


... lots of stuff then -

: In that case you can skip on the 1280x1024 if that saves a few cents,
: because with a 17" you'll wind up using 1024x768 or 1152x900 anyway.  At
: 1024x768 an S3-805 videocard is sufficient in practice, which should save
: you a few bucks.

I don't see this argument personally I use 1200*872 (non standard but uses 1M)
on a 15" monitor quite happily. (it's interlaced too cos it looks more
stable that way!)

--
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Post by Bernie Thomps » Wed, 16 Feb 1994 13:20:30


: Quality video: along with SVGA compatibility, 1280 x 1024 would be great.
: I also want 24 bit color, but it's too expensive to get 1280 x 1024 x 24.
: So compromise and get a card with 1280 x 1024 x 8 that can also give
: 800 x 600 x 24, accellerated, like the Orchid Celsius or the American
: Megatrends VLB.  I'm unclear on Linux & X support for either the high
: resolution, high colors, or accelleration, but I can always use SVGA mode
: while hacking drivers.

For those who don't know, there is no such thing as "SVGA compatability."
Each video chipset -- S3, XGA, AGX, Tseng ET4000/W32, Cirrus 542x,
Weitek P9000, etc. etc. -- is programmed in a completely different
manner.  In general, the best compatability for XFree86 (and OS/2) is
provided by the S3 family of chips (801, 805 (VLB version of 801), and
928)  Support does exist in one form or another for some of the other
boards.  Picking a video card that'll work is tough.  S3 seems to be
a safe choice right now.  So don't just go by brand name of the board --
find out what video chip is used.

I don't know what chips the Orchid Celsius or the American Megatrends
uses, but someone considering a purchase would have to find out.
Orchid's S3 801 and 805 boards are called the Orchid Fahrenheit+

--
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Post by Tom Brig » Wed, 16 Feb 1994 15:11:32


The dream Linux machine?  I think people are describing the best SCO UNIX
machine... I've got a Linux machine here on campus that ran beutifully on
a 386/40, with 120Mb ST-1144A HD, 8mb of ram, generic VGA, etc... and I
didn't have any problems... Now, I run a Linux machine on a 486/33 with 16
Mb of ram, still with IDE, and there is not that much more a perf. gain..
Linux is geared to give you every ounce of speed that your Intel chip can
give -- and it does it very well... I'd say the best thing to do for you
Linux machine is get it off of the ISA bus.  That is the worst thing you
can to do poor Linux.... ISA = BAD  EISA = BETTER
Whats sad is I'm taking a course right now, and we are studying bus designs.
I'm sorry, but Motorola's VME bus wins... effective transfers at 42Mb / sec,
with comparitive transfers at over 300Mb with multiprocessor machines...
Meanwhile, Intel is still in the <10M/s range... Maybe Linus should port
Linux to the 68000 series.

--

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Shippensburg Univeristy (Student)


 
 
 

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Post by Eric J. Schwertfeg » Thu, 17 Feb 1994 03:45:56




>: In that case you can skip on the 1280x1024 if that saves a few cents,
>: because with a 17" you'll wind up using 1024x768 or 1152x900 anyway.  At
>: 1024x768 an S3-805 videocard is sufficient in practice, which should save
>: you a few bucks.
>I don't see this argument personally I use 1200*872 (non standard but uses 1M)
>on a 15" monitor quite happily. (it's interlaced too cos it looks more
>stable that way!)

Agreed.  My contacts correct to 20/20, but I still prefer wearing my
glasses, because they correct to 20/10.  Given that people that don't
wear glasses don't see this well, I wouldn't expect everyone to be
able to read my display.  I find 1280x1024 on a 17" monitor and
1024x768 on a 15" monitor quite readable, and I have worked in
1280x1024 on a 15" monitor (some X programs assume you have a monitor
Quote:>800 pixels high), though that is pushing it for me.  I know people

that it doesn't bother, however.
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Post by Keith Smi » Fri, 18 Feb 1994 12:27:44




>The dream Linux machine?  I think people are describing the best SCO UNIX
>machine... I've got a Linux machine here on campus that ran beutifully on

No,  That would be a WYSE-9000i 8 CPU box with MPX, and a large disk
farm, and a FEW 30" X-Terminals thrown in on the ETHERNET. <GRIN>.

Quote:>a 386/40, with 120Mb ST-1144A HD, 8mb of ram, generic VGA, etc... and I
>didn't have any problems... Now, I run a Linux machine on a 486/33 with 16
>Mb of ram, still with IDE, and there is not that much more a perf. gain..
>Linux is geared to give you every ounce of speed that your Intel chip can
>give -- and it does it very well... I'd say the best thing to do for you
>Linux machine is get it off of the ISA bus.  That is the worst thing you
>can to do poor Linux.... ISA = BAD  EISA = BETTER

Under linux EISA doesn't buy you much.  There are very few, if any
boards that are even supported doing EISA B/M.

Quote:>Whats sad is I'm taking a course right now, and we are studying bus designs.
>I'm sorry, but Motorola's VME bus wins... effective transfers at 42Mb / sec,
>with comparitive transfers at over 300Mb with multiprocessor machines...
>Meanwhile, Intel is still in the <10M/s range... Maybe Linus should port
>Linux to the 68000 series.

Bus speed is sort of irrelevant if your perhipherals can't swamp your
bus.  The only things I see with that potential are real time video, and
maybe some big raid disk farms.  We are just now approaching ISA bus
limitations, and VLB masters and PCI are up & comming new technologies
that might be useful, as will EISA-II if it ever makes it off the
drawing boards.
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Post by Eric Jeschk » Fri, 18 Feb 1994 16:39:58


:Even that's still a bit steep, so one might drop back to either 15" (sigh)
:or support for only 1024 x 768. That would allow dropping down to a cheaper
:video card, and applying the money elsewhere.
Get a 17", you won't regret it.

:done in hardware. The Toptek Golden Sound Pro 16 does all of that and
:has other features such as onboard DSP, although again I might have to
:do some driver hacking under Linux to get GUS-like support.
Never heard of it.  How much?  The Orchid Soundwave 32 is SB-compat,
uses WTS, DSP, etc.  Several people have reported success with it under
Linux.

:For backups and fast access to offline archives, magneto-optical disk
:would be great (especially the 500M double sided Tahiti 2), and I may
:go for it as a premium item, used. But DAT tape backup is closer to the
:knee of the curve, for as little as $450, I think.
SCSI DAT for $450?  The only DAT drives I have seen go for ~$1000 US
mail-order.

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Post by N J Andrew » Sat, 19 Feb 1994 06:23:22



|>
|> [deleted]
|>
|> ---With a bugfree chipset.
|>
|>  >             1MB processor cache (each)

|>
|> Would that really buy extra speed?  (i.e., less waitstates)?
|>
|> [deleted]

What's up with EDRAM ( that's 15ns and 0 wait states on vertually all accesses ).

--
Nigel J. Andrews
Astronomical Instrumentation Group
Physics Department
University of Durham

 
 
 

1. What's the *dream* Linux Platform?

I've been reading this group for a few months and it just struck me that
during that time I've never seen a thread dedicated to the determination of
just what combination of hardware one could put together to make a Linux
"dream machine."

Now I know the generic answer is a really-fast math-coprocessor 19"
color blah blah blah but what I'm interested in is information from those of
you who've actually gotten Linux up and running on some of these super
platforms; what hardware configuration, in your opinion, is the best for
Linux?  

I should also say that I'm hoping for specific vendors, as well.  We, for
instance, have invested a fair amount of $$ in Gateways, and found that
Linux works beautifully on them, EXCEPT that the ones that have the Western
Digital VGA boards in them are (at least so far) impossible to get X running
on.  It's those sort of gotchas I'd like to catalog, and will be glad to
post summary information to the net if people would like to email me their
experiences.

Thanks in advance.

Brian Capouch
Saint Joseph's College (for Children)

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