KMail / Kde 2.2.beta1 still does not support SMTP Authentication

KMail / Kde 2.2.beta1 still does not support SMTP Authentication

Post by Eggert Ehmk » Thu, 05 Jul 2001 22:12:33



This really is a bad thing, because some ISP's require this (RFC 2554). Is
there some workaround ? I still have to use webmail or AkMail, which runs
under Windows.
If someone knows the trick to config Sendmail to support this, I would be
happy.

--
Eggert Ehmke

 
 
 

KMail / Kde 2.2.beta1 still does not support SMTP Authentication

Post by Jens Fluck » Thu, 05 Jul 2001 22:23:19


Hallo Eggert,
wir hatten ja schon einmal das Thema. Habe mit den Entwicklern gesprochen. Es
handelt sich um ein neues Feature, das wird in 2.2 nicht mehr drin sein. ;-(
Aber ich bin auch bei Berlin.de. Vielleicht solltest Du auch noch einmal an
die Entwickler schreiben. Druck machen

Gru? Jens

Eggert Ehmke schrieb:

> This really is a bad thing, because some ISP's require this (RFC 2554). Is
> there some workaround ? I still have to use webmail or AkMail, which runs
> under Windows.
> If someone knows the trick to config Sendmail to support this, I would be
> happy.

> --
> Eggert Ehmke



 
 
 

KMail / Kde 2.2.beta1 still does not support SMTP Authentication

Post by Robert Davie » Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:23:31



> Hallo Eggert,
> wir hatten ja schon einmal das Thema. Habe mit den Entwicklern gesprochen.
> Es handelt sich um ein neues Feature, das wird in 2.2 nicht mehr drin
> sein. ;-( Aber ich bin auch bei Berlin.de. Vielleicht solltest Du auch
> noch einmal an die Entwickler schreiben. Druck machen

> Eggert Ehmke schrieb:

>> This really is a bad thing, because some ISP's require this (RFC 2554).
>> Is there some workaround ? I still have to use webmail or AkMail, which
>> runs under Windows.
>> If someone knows the trick to config Sendmail to support this, I would be
>> happy.

Is this covered by the discussion of the new SASL library?

http://kt.zork.net/kde/kde20010629_16.html#8

It seems someone is trying and the problems are due to license / legal
issues.  The bottom talks about the smtp slave.

Rob

 
 
 

KMail / Kde 2.2.beta1 still does not support SMTP Authentication

Post by Robert Davie » Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:37:09



> This really is a bad thing, because some ISP's require this (RFC 2554). Is
> there some workaround ? I still have to use webmail or AkMail, which runs
> under Windows.
> If someone knows the trick to config Sendmail to support this, I would be
> happy.

Looks like you'ld have to recompile it against the cyrus-sasl library.

Rob

http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html

SMTP AUTH in sendmail 8.10/8.11

Introduction

sendmail 8.10/8.11 support SMTP AUTH as defined in RFC 2554 which is based
on SASL. This document describes the necessary steps for installation and
operation of this feature with sendmail 8.10 and later versions.

(2000-03-23) If you use sendmail 8.10.0 as client for SMTP AUTH, please
read the security warning.

InstallationCyrus SASL Get, compile, and install cyrus-sasl (current
(2000-07-21) version: 1.5.24). Read the docs which come with it (as well as
README and INSTALL).

Make sure the libraries are installed in a location which sendmail uses on
your system by default. The libraries must be "safe", i.e., they should be
owned by root and only writable by that user. As usual, the whole path must
be safe too.

Next, create a configuration file called Sendmail.conf if needed/wanted.

 
 
 

KMail / Kde 2.2.beta1 still does not support SMTP Authentication

Post by Michael Haecke » Fri, 06 Jul 2001 05:39:39



> Hallo Eggert,
> wir hatten ja schon einmal das Thema. Habe mit den Entwicklern gesprochen.
> Es handelt sich um ein neues Feature, das wird in 2.2 nicht mehr drin
> sein. ;-( Aber ich bin auch bei Berlin.de. Vielleicht solltest Du auch
> noch einmal an die Entwickler schreiben. Druck machen

KMail is a free software project of a few hobby deveoplers and not a
commercial product. Nobody has to make pressure on anyone doing anything.

If someone _really_ needs a feature, he can implement it himself which is
also one of the big advantages of open source development.

Nevertheless it is worked on SMTP authentication since some time.
Unfortunately it was delayed several times due to several reasons. Lately
due to a developer not willing to release his code he put into CVS under an
open source licence.
Even if it will not go into KDE 2.2, possibly a separate patch might be
provided against the released version, when this feature is ready, but this
is not a promise :-)

Regards,
Michael H?ckel

 
 
 

KMail / Kde 2.2.beta1 still does not support SMTP Authentication

Post by Eggert Ehmk » Fri, 06 Jul 2001 18:15:37




...

Quote:>KMail is a free software project of a few hobby deveoplers and not a
>commercial product. Nobody has to make pressure on anyone doing anything.

>If someone _really_ needs a feature, he can implement it himself which is
>also one of the big advantages of open source development.

I know this and I appreciate this. I just don't have the time/knowledge to
do it now. Maybe next winter ? Anyway, KMail is one of the key applications
in KDE, and it *should* support this feature. I hate to reboot to wondows
just to get my mail.

Eggert

--
Eggert Ehmke

 
 
 

KMail / Kde 2.2.beta1 still does not support SMTP Authentication

Post by Robert Davie » Fri, 06 Jul 2001 20:41:12





> I know this and I appreciate this. I just don't have the time/knowledge to
> do it now. Maybe next winter ? Anyway, KMail is one of the key
> applications in KDE, and it *should* support this feature. I hate to
> reboot to wondows just to get my mail.

Do read the info link on KDE news I posted, it explains the problem, and
what is being done about it.

Rob

 
 
 

KMail / Kde 2.2.beta1 still does not support SMTP Authentication

Post by Harmen Schaa » Sat, 07 Jul 2001 10:08:28



> ...
>>KMail is a free software project of a few hobby deveoplers and not a
>>commercial product. Nobody has to make pressure on anyone doing anything.

>>If someone _really_ needs a feature, he can implement it himself which is
>>also one of the big advantages of open source development.

> I know this and I appreciate this. I just don't have the time/knowledge to
> do it now. Maybe next winter ? Anyway, KMail is one of the key
> applications in KDE, and it *should* support this feature. I hate to
> reboot to wondows just to get my mail.

You can also just install sendmail to do this. Sure it would be easier if
KMail could do it out of the box without other tools. But it won't take
that long to be fixed I think. Just give them some time to do that. Maybe
someone can just add a short FAQ/How-To to install sendmail on a
stand-alone box. I think that will solve the problem for most people.

--
Harmen Schaap

 
 
 

KMail / Kde 2.2.beta1 still does not support SMTP Authentication

Post by Hendric Stattman » Fri, 06 Jul 2001 23:55:27



> I know this and I appreciate this. I just don't have the time/knowledge
> to do it now. Maybe next winter ? Anyway, KMail is one of the key
> applications in KDE, and it *should* support this feature. I hate to
> reboot to wondows just to get my mail.

Hello Eggert,
You don't have to reboot your PC to Windows in order to get your mail.
Just use fetchmail to get your messages delivered locally.

HTH Hendric
--
Hendric Stattmann, Lausanne, Switzerland, Registered Linux User #178879
Visit the official Swiss Shodokan Aikido Homepage (french language) at:
http://members.nbci.com/asats

 
 
 

KMail / Kde 2.2.beta1 still does not support SMTP Authentication

Post by Eggert Ehmk » Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:06:29


On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 16:55:27 +0200, Hendric Stattmann


>Hello Eggert,
>You don't have to reboot your PC to Windows in order to get your mail.
>Just use fetchmail to get your messages delivered locally.

Hello Hendric,
ok my statement was not clear. My problem is to *send* email via SMTP. My
provider requires SMTP Authentication, which is not supported by KMail. I
will try to setup sendmail for this purpose.
Eggert

--
Eggert Ehmke

 
 
 

KMail / Kde 2.2.beta1 still does not support SMTP Authentication

Post by Dann » Thu, 09 Aug 2001 02:35:23



> provider requires SMTP Authentication, which is not supported by KMail. I
> will try to setup sendmail for this purpose.

Have you been successful? Same problem here that I'm trying to get rid of.
All my providers seem to need SMTP Authentication.
Thanks in advance...

Danny

--
JETZT ist erst sp?ter, aber wenn, dann ist es schon passiert!

 
 
 

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