R4 Better Than R5?

R4 Better Than R5?

Post by Richard Pet » Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:00:00



I've had almost no luck setting up networking in LinuxPPC R5. To boot, I
keep hearing wonderful news about how "pump" is screwed up.

I reinstalled LinuxPPC again last night, thinking that "pump" might be an
optional install, and that by deselecting it the RedHat installer would
revert to older, tried-and-true technology.

Not.

I'm trying to configure LinuxPPC to connect to Time Warner's RoadRunner
here in Austin, Texas. Their DHCP assigns the client's IP number, DNS, and
router numbers. If I were trying to configure LinuxPPC on a completely
static network, I'm sure everything would work great.

At this point, I don't care if I'm running 4 or 5 -- I just want the silly
thing to work.

Should I revert to version 4 of LinuxPPC? Version 5 seems pretty bleeding
edge, to me.

And IPNetRouter running on the MacOS is looking sweet -- at least it worked.

--Richard

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R4 Better Than R5?

Post by Jeroen Scheerd » Mon, 05 Jul 1999 04:00:00



Quote:> I've had almost no luck setting up networking in LinuxPPC R5. To boot, I
> keep hearing wonderful news about how "pump" is screwed up.

One more bug in the initial RedHat 6.0 release that has been fixed for
quite some time now...

Quote:> At this point, I don't care if I'm running 4 or 5 -- I just want the silly
> thing to work.

Someone posted a note about how to setup a working dhcp a while ago.
I'm not sure it used `pump' or not; a little search on Deja should
reveal it.

This is, by the way, not an R4-vs-R5 thing.  IMHO, this is where linux
architecture is exhibiting its downside; networking implies kernel-level
hacquery in Linux, with the effect that a kernel update may necessitate
a slew of changes to other code.  With the arrival of the 2.2.x kernel,
one of the things that broke happened to be dhcp.  And it usually takes
a while for the dust to settle down if such a thing happens...

From my personal experience: going from R4 to R5 wasn't painless
(morale: don't update, just reinstall from scratch), and installation
wasn't as smooth as R4.  But once installed, and once (most of) the
well-known issues (as discussed here) were resolved, I ended up with a
Unix in which important things now actually *work* (e.g. some forms of
dynamical loading).

Quote:> And IPNetRouter running on the MacOS is looking sweet -- at least it worked.

Yes, IPNR is a very sweet program.  It helps of course that Mac OS
offers the advanced networking architecture (and performance) of the
Mentat streams architecture: thinks like proxying and routing are
hideous hacks in classic Unix `sockets' networking, which is one of the
reasons you won't find it in a more modern Unix like Solaris or HP/UX.

If all you need is make a router of existing PPC hardware, there's
little reason for LinuxPPC, if you ask me.  I've seen ancient hardware
run IPNR smoothly and without a glitch for months in a row.

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1. LinuxPPC R5 vs. R4, what are the differences?

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installing the relevant RPM's?

Also, what's the state of the pre-R5 build at this point -- is it stable
and usable except for a few new features, or is it fundamentally unsafe
for day-to-day work?

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