7100/66 install w/o cdrom?

7100/66 install w/o cdrom?

Post by Jeff Volckaer » Thu, 25 Feb 1999 04:00:00



Hello Everybody,

I have a 7100/66 running MacOS 7.1 which I would like to put MKLinux on.  I
have hunted around for answer but have come up with nothing on how to
install on this box without a cdrom drive.  Is there a floppy installation
set out there?  Preferably I would like to do a clean install.

Any help or pointers?  I haven't worked on MACs in years so the more detail
the better.

I do have the AAUI adapter attached to my LAN so I could do an FTP install
(I have done this alot on PCs), but cannot find out how to make the boot
floppies like I would on a PC.

TIA,
Jeff Volckaert

 
 
 

7100/66 install w/o cdrom?

Post by Steven Ka » Thu, 25 Feb 1999 04:00:00



> Hello Everybody,

> I have a 7100/66 running MacOS 7.1 which I would like to put MKLinux on.  I
> have hunted around for answer but have come up with nothing on how to
> install on this box without a cdrom drive.  Is there a floppy installation
> set out there?  Preferably I would like to do a clean install.

> Any help or pointers?  I haven't worked on MACs in years so the more detail
> the better.

> I do have the AAUI adapter attached to my LAN so I could do an FTP install
> (I have done this alot on PCs), but cannot find out how to make the boot
> floppies like I would on a PC.

I have MkLinux DR3 installed on my 6100, and I just FTP'd everything to
a volume on the HD and did it from there. No floppy or CD-ROM needed.
Just install the Mac-side stuff and use pdisk to figure out the path to
the booter, then point the installer to the RedHat directory.

Note that you'll need the path to the directory that contains the RedHat
directory, not the path _of_ the RedHat directory. At least that's the
way I remember it. If you get it wrong the installer will fail and it
won't be obvious why.
--
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Wrote Win95 to do battle,                        #  ```````
But Mac users pity                               #    ```````
The masses not witty                             #      ```````
Enough to know Wintel's for cattle.              #.       ```````




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7100/66 install w/o cdrom?

Post by Jeff Volckaer » Thu, 25 Feb 1999 04:00:00


Thanks for replying.  Since I have Mac OS 7.1 without MacTCP am I screwed?
I have been been able to use transmac to create floppies for mac software
(like stuffit) which I might be able to sneaker-net it over on.

TIA,
Jeff Volckaert



>> Hello Everybody,

>> I have a 7100/66 running MacOS 7.1 which I would like to put MKLinux on.
I
>> have hunted around for answer but have come up with nothing on how to
>> install on this box without a cdrom drive.  Is there a floppy
installation
>> set out there?  Preferably I would like to do a clean install.

>> Any help or pointers?  I haven't worked on MACs in years so the more
detail
>> the better.

>> I do have the AAUI adapter attached to my LAN so I could do an FTP
install
>> (I have done this alot on PCs), but cannot find out how to make the boot
>> floppies like I would on a PC.

>I have MkLinux DR3 installed on my 6100, and I just FTP'd everything to
>a volume on the HD and did it from there. No floppy or CD-ROM needed.
>Just install the Mac-side stuff and use pdisk to figure out the path to
>the booter, then point the installer to the RedHat directory.

>Note that you'll need the path to the directory that contains the RedHat
>directory, not the path _of_ the RedHat directory. At least that's the
>way I remember it. If you get it wrong the installer will fail and it
>won't be obvious why.
>--
>A rich man who hailed from Seattle               #```````
>Wrote Win95 to do battle,                        #  ```````
>But Mac users pity                               #    ```````
>The masses not witty                             #      ```````
>Enough to know Wintel's for cattle.              #.       ```````




>http://www.kan.org                   ~                      .  #H2O##
>Everybody S.H.I.N.E.             ~                            .#POLO#
>Support Heterogeneity In Networked Environments      ~    ~    ######

 
 
 

7100/66 install w/o cdrom?

Post by Steven Ka » Thu, 25 Feb 1999 04:00:00



> Thanks for replying.  Since I have Mac OS 7.1 without MacTCP am I screwed?
> I have been been able to use transmac to create floppies for mac software
> (like stuffit) which I might be able to sneaker-net it over on.

You can get MacTCP by installing an old version of AOL. If it's earlier
than MacTCP 2.0.6 you can then install the updates from:

<URL:ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US...>

to bring it up to 2.0.6.

Alternatively, you can buy a huge box of floppies and download Mac OS
7.5.3 from Apple at:

<URL:ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US...>

and then update it 7.5.5. using three more images from:

<URL:ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US...>

MacTCP is included in Mac OS 7.5.x.

Of course if you're just going to run MkLinux I'd just do the AOL thing.
Perhaps someone else can email MacTCP to you. It's not exactly legal to
email around, but then again it's on every AOL disk, so I don't think
Apple would mind.
--
A rich man who hailed from Seattle               #```````
Wrote Win95 to do battle,                        #  ```````
But Mac users pity                               #    ```````
The masses not witty                             #      ```````
Enough to know Wintel's for cattle.              #.       ```````




http://www.kan.org                   ~                      .  #H2O##
Everybody S.H.I.N.E.             ~                            .#POLO#
Support Heterogeneity In Networked Environments      ~    ~    ######

 
 
 

7100/66 install w/o cdrom?

Post by Jeff Volckaer » Thu, 25 Feb 1999 04:00:00


Thanks for the info.  Actually I think I will do the reinstall first.  Just
for practice.  I have a cable modem so downloads of 20-100mg are not a
problem at all.

I have a copy of 7.5 but it is corrupted.

I'll update you when I get somewhere... <g>

Thanks again.

Jeff Volckaert



>> Thanks for replying.  Since I have Mac OS 7.1 without MacTCP am I
screwed?
>> I have been been able to use transmac to create floppies for mac software
>> (like stuffit) which I might be able to sneaker-net it over on.

>You can get MacTCP by installing an old version of AOL. If it's earlier
>than MacTCP 2.0.6 you can then install the updates from:

><URL:ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US/

Macintosh/Networking-Communications/Other_N-C/>
Quote:

>to bring it up to 2.0.6.

>Alternatively, you can buy a huge box of floppies and download Mac OS
>7.5.3 from Apple at:

><URL:ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US/

Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_7.5_Version_7.5.3/>
Quote:

>and then update it 7.5.5. using three more images from:

><URL:ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US/

Macintosh/System/System_7.5.5_Update/>

>MacTCP is included in Mac OS 7.5.x.

>Of course if you're just going to run MkLinux I'd just do the AOL thing.
>Perhaps someone else can email MacTCP to you. It's not exactly legal to
>email around, but then again it's on every AOL disk, so I don't think
>Apple would mind.
>--
>A rich man who hailed from Seattle               #```````
>Wrote Win95 to do battle,                        #  ```````
>But Mac users pity                               #    ```````
>The masses not witty                             #      ```````
>Enough to know Wintel's for cattle.              #.       ```````




>http://www.kan.org                   ~                      .  #H2O##
>Everybody S.H.I.N.E.             ~                            .#POLO#
>Support Heterogeneity In Networked Environments      ~    ~    ######

 
 
 

7100/66 install w/o cdrom?

Post by Jeff Volckaer » Fri, 26 Feb 1999 04:00:00


Well seems that my MAC decided to not boot now.  I put in the 7.5 disk 1, it
ejects the disk and gives me the happy mac screen... that's it.  Now when I
turn it on I get only the happy mac screen.

When I put in disk tools it just ejects it too... what's up with that?

TIA,
Jeff Volckaert


>Thanks for the info.  Actually I think I will do the reinstall first.  Just
>for practice.  I have a cable modem so downloads of 20-100mg are not a
>problem at all.

>I have a copy of 7.5 but it is corrupted.

>I'll update you when I get somewhere... <g>

>Thanks again.

>Jeff Volckaert



>>> Thanks for replying.  Since I have Mac OS 7.1 without MacTCP am I
>screwed?
>>> I have been been able to use transmac to create floppies for mac
software
>>> (like stuffit) which I might be able to sneaker-net it over on.

>>You can get MacTCP by installing an old version of AOL. If it's earlier
>>than MacTCP 2.0.6 you can then install the updates from:

>><URL:ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US
/
>Macintosh/Networking-Communications/Other_N-C/>

>>to bring it up to 2.0.6.

>>Alternatively, you can buy a huge box of floppies and download Mac OS
>>7.5.3 from Apple at:

>><URL:ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US
/
>Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_7.5_Version_7.5.3/>

>>and then update it 7.5.5. using three more images from:

>><URL:ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US
/
>Macintosh/System/System_7.5.5_Update/>

>>MacTCP is included in Mac OS 7.5.x.

>>Of course if you're just going to run MkLinux I'd just do the AOL thing.
>>Perhaps someone else can email MacTCP to you. It's not exactly legal to
>>email around, but then again it's on every AOL disk, so I don't think
>>Apple would mind.
>>--
>>A rich man who hailed from Seattle               #```````
>>Wrote Win95 to do battle,                        #  ```````
>>But Mac users pity                               #    ```````
>>The masses not witty                             #      ```````
>>Enough to know Wintel's for cattle.              #.       ```````




>>http://www.kan.org                   ~                      .  #H2O##
>>Everybody S.H.I.N.E.             ~                            .#POLO#
>>Support Heterogeneity In Networked Environments      ~    ~    ######

 
 
 

7100/66 install w/o cdrom?

Post by Jeff Volckaer » Fri, 26 Feb 1999 04:00:00


Well, well.... seems that I can boot off my disk tools.  I repaired my main
HD (which had errors), but now I get the ? screen when I boot without the
disk tools disk.

Any help with that?  If I initialize  and partition will that make the disk
bootable?

Also, I have the 19 disk images for OS 7.5 and have used transmac to write
them as binhex to floppies.  When I put in disk 1 it just ejects though.  Am
I writing the floppy wrong?

TIA,
Jeff Volckaert


>Well seems that my MAC decided to not boot now.  I put in the 7.5 disk 1,
it
>ejects the disk and gives me the happy mac screen... that's it.  Now when I
>turn it on I get only the happy mac screen.

>When I put in disk tools it just ejects it too... what's up with that?

>TIA,
>Jeff Volckaert


>>Thanks for the info.  Actually I think I will do the reinstall first.
Just
>>for practice.  I have a cable modem so downloads of 20-100mg are not a
>>problem at all.

>>I have a copy of 7.5 but it is corrupted.

>>I'll update you when I get somewhere... <g>

>>Thanks again.

>>Jeff Volckaert



>>>> Thanks for replying.  Since I have Mac OS 7.1 without MacTCP am I
>>screwed?
>>>> I have been been able to use transmac to create floppies for mac
>software
>>>> (like stuffit) which I might be able to sneaker-net it over on.

>>>You can get MacTCP by installing an old version of AOL. If it's earlier
>>>than MacTCP 2.0.6 you can then install the updates from:

>>><URL:ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple.Software.Updates/U
S
>/
>>Macintosh/Networking-Communications/Other_N-C/>

>>>to bring it up to 2.0.6.

>>>Alternatively, you can buy a huge box of floppies and download Mac OS
>>>7.5.3 from Apple at:

>>><URL:ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple.Software.Updates/U
S
>/
>>Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_7.5_Version_7.5.3/>

>>>and then update it 7.5.5. using three more images from:

>>><URL:ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple.Software.Updates/U
S
>/
>>Macintosh/System/System_7.5.5_Update/>

>>>MacTCP is included in Mac OS 7.5.x.

>>>Of course if you're just going to run MkLinux I'd just do the AOL thing.
>>>Perhaps someone else can email MacTCP to you. It's not exactly legal to
>>>email around, but then again it's on every AOL disk, so I don't think
>>>Apple would mind.
>>>--
>>>A rich man who hailed from Seattle               #```````
>>>Wrote Win95 to do battle,                        #  ```````
>>>But Mac users pity                               #    ```````
>>>The masses not witty                             #      ```````
>>>Enough to know Wintel's for cattle.              #.       ```````




>>>http://www.kan.org                   ~                      .  #H2O##
>>>Everybody S.H.I.N.E.             ~                            .#POLO#
>>>Support Heterogeneity In Networked Environments      ~    ~    ######

 
 
 

7100/66 install w/o cdrom?

Post by Steven Ka » Fri, 26 Feb 1999 04:00:00



> Well, well.... seems that I can boot off my disk tools.  I repaired my main
> HD (which had errors), but now I get the ? screen when I boot without the
> disk tools disk.

> Any help with that?  If I initialize  and partition will that make the disk
> bootable?

> Also, I have the 19 disk images for OS 7.5 and have used transmac to write
> them as binhex to floppies.  When I put in disk 1 it just ejects though.  Am
> I writing the floppy wrong?

Hmm. I've never used TransMac, but those unless it's decoding the images
as it writes them, it won't work.

The disk images need to be decoded on a Mac, and then written to
floppies using a utility like Disk Copy from Apple or ShrinkWrap. I
could be wrong, but I don't think TransMac will do this properly.

You _could_ try using Aladdin's StuffitExpander to decode the binhexed
files on the PC, but I don't know of any utility to create the floppy
from the image on the PC side. Simply copying the .img file won't work,
I don't think.

Know any friends with Macs?
--
A rich man who hailed from Seattle               #```````
Wrote Win95 to do battle,                        #  ```````
But Mac users pity                               #    ```````
The masses not witty                             #      ```````
Enough to know Wintel's for cattle.              #.       ```````




http://www.kan.org                   ~                      .  #H2O##
Everybody S.H.I.N.E.             ~                            .#POLO#
Support Heterogeneity In Networked Environments      ~    ~    ######

 
 
 

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