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> > Any way to get it into my Linux partitions to install now?
> > TIA

> You will have to do this in macos since linuxppc cannot read/mount HFS+
> partitions. You could boot into macos and copy the files from the HFS+
> disk to the /boot partition. Then reboot into linux then move the files
> from /boot to their final desitnation.
> --
> Bob

> > Any way to get it into my Linux partitions to install now?

> > > OK, I made a stupid mistake, when downloading different distros of
> > > Linux to try out on Mac I also downloaded a lot of extra stuff.

> > > Any way to get it into my Linux partitions to install now?

> Either LinuxDisks from the MacOS side, as mentioned below (MountX is
> also a possibility, but I haven't heard of any positive experiences
> with it) . . . or hfsplusutils from the Linux side (contrary to the
> can't mount/read statement below - no slam, it's a common belief).

> In my experience, LinuxDisks is 10x friendlier GUI-wise, and 10x
> slower speed-wise (than hfsplusutils).  hfsplusutils is command
> line only, and uses a slightly odd "virtual mount" convention and
> command syntax, so you want to read the docs before using.

> <snippage>

> > > In either case, you probably want to have the latest/greatest Disk
> > > First Aid for your MacOS version handy to run afterward, and to
> > > approach with a "get in, copy stuff, get out ASAP" mindset.

> > > I have all the latest greatest MacOS rescue stuff, but I'd rather not
> > > have to use it.

> > > Can I really scramble my MacOS Volume directory using these utilities?

> Disclaimer: this is all "in my personal experience", on a Umax S900
> (8500/9500 clone),
> across (Fast) SCSI drives via what I believe is a souped-up PCI bridge,
> between YDL
> 1.2 on 1 drive and MacOS 9.1 on another.

> My 3 main findings are:

> 1.  hfsutils or mount -t commands:  copies from HFS to ext2, no problems on
> either side.
> "Pushing" new files, or overwriting existing files, or deleting files on
> the
> Mac side from
> Linux side = no visible problems, but unfixable "cosmetic" errors in Disk
> Utils 8.x and
> early 9.x, and pre-Norton 5 utils (invalid node count, I think - and BTW I
> got
> the same
> deal going between BeOS <-> MacOS partitions.)  Prime Directive:  always
> "pull" from the
> foreign partition to the "native" one, using a native (obviously!) app.  If
> you absolutely
> have to "push", push from the Mac (HFS) side to whatever (Linux, Be, etc).

> 2.  Based on the Prime Directive above, for HFS+, use LinuxDisks to "pull"
> ext2 -> HFS+,
> or hfsplusutils to "pull" HFS+ -> ext2 . . . and if you can't help it for
> some
> reason, only
> ever "push" HFS+ -> ext2.   Off the top of my head, I can't even remember
> if
> HFS+ lets
> you write ext2 -> HFS+ . . . since the mad notion of doing something along
> those lines
> would never cross my mind at this point.  Staying inside this limitation,
> I've
> never had
> any problems with hfsplusutils.

> For 1 and 2:  treat the file exchange like an FTP session: fire up app, get
> in, do your
> thing, and get out/quit app.

> . . . and afterwards, "just to be sure", you probably want to take a few
> secs
> to run
> Disk First Aid.  With any luck, it'll be a purely superstitious waster of
> time.

> 3.  If you're a whiz with MOL and you're comfortable with network-based
> file-sharing, you
> can use FTP, HTTP, NFS, ethernet-based appletalk, etc. as you see fit, I
> believe.  I
> haven't personally been there and done that, so I couldn't say.

> Good luck!

> D.

> > I have all the latest greatest MacOS rescue stuff, but I'd rather not
> > have
> >to use it.  Can I really scramble my MacOS Volume directory using these
> >utilities?

> it can get messy if you do a lot of writing and deleting on the HFS+ side
> or
> delete any of the normally hidden MacOS system files.  webgod has good
> advice
> and worth following. copy the files over and then delete from MacOS.

> That's of course possible with MOL. Might requite ethertap (a fake net
> interface assigned the IP address used by MOL). NCSA telnet came with
> FTP server, I've used that a lot to copy stuff to or from Macs.

> Michael

> > > Hmmm... could I FTP to "myself"?
> > > i.e.: from the Linux side to the HFS+ side?
> > > Interesting concept, but nearly as straightford as it sounds, I'll bet.

> > That's of course possible with MOL. Might requite ethertap (a fake net
> > interface assigned the IP address used by MOL). NCSA telnet came with
> > FTP server, I've used that a lot to copy stuff to or from Macs.

> > Michael

> > I have XHFS running on my Yellow Dog Linux 2.0 (It came installed with it.)
> > Works with HFS+.

> So it's built into the YDL kernal?