MkLinux not on 7300's!?

MkLinux not on 7300's!?

Post by Aaron Tulle » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00



Okay I know I can run PPC/Linux on my 7300 but when looking through the
MkLinux pages at Apple it says that it will not work on a 7300 or
603e-based machines.  Now, isn't a 7300 just a normal PowerMac in the
same class as say a 7500/8600/9600 (i.e. machines that do run MkLinux)?.
My 7300 has a 604e and doens't have any weird hardware.  I'm just
curious if anyone knows why MkLinux won't work on a 7300 (it's not just
unsupported, it's in the DOES NOT WORK category).  Thanks.  I guess I
could try it anyway but I'd rather not if it's not even going to boot...

-aaron
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MkLinux not on 7300's!?

Post by Jerry Quin » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00



> Okay I know I can run PPC/Linux on my 7300 but when looking through the
> MkLinux pages at Apple it says that it will not work on a 7300 or
> 603e-based machines.  Now, isn't a 7300 just a normal PowerMac in the

The Mklinux pages at Apple are badly out of date.  If you want more up-to-date
info, join the mailing lists and visit the FAQ-o-Matic:

  http://cobweb.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/jonh/faqomatic/faq.pl

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MkLinux not on 7300's!?

Post by Jerry Quin » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00


Oh, yeah, 7300's and many 603e's are supported now.

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MkLinux not on 7300's!?

Post by Paul Wom » Sun, 01 Feb 1998 04:00:00



> Oh, yeah, 7300's and many 603e's are supported now.

And this is Apple's *MKLINUX* and not Linux-ppc or Pmac Linux?
 
 
 

MkLinux not on 7300's!?

Post by Ken & Stacy Hamilt » Mon, 02 Feb 1998 04:00:00


I have LinuxPPC running over MkLinux on a PowerMac 7300.  I have managed
to get PPP working properly, but I was hoping to get a browser going.  I
understand Netscape is available, and Amaya, and I have downloaded both.
The install of Netscape did not appear to work (although I admit I may not
have been doing it right), and the installation of Amaya went somewhat
awry as well.  When installing Amaya, it told me that I needed the Thot
Editor sources, which I can't find, and that I need Motif 1.2 or 2.0,
which I also cannot find.  If anyone has any information on any of this,
or just how get a decent browser working on LinuxPPC, I'd appreciate it.
Oh yes, and I also don't seem to be able to unpack RedHat packages.  It
tells me I am missing some libraries.  Any information on that would also
be appreciated.  Thanks

Ken Hamilton

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MkLinux not on 7300's!?

Post by Jason » Mon, 02 Feb 1998 04:00:00



Quote:>I have LinuxPPC running over MkLinux on a PowerMac 7300.  I have managed
>to get PPP working properly, but I was hoping to get a browser going.  I
>understand Netscape is available, and Amaya, and I have downloaded both.
>The install of Netscape did not appear to work (although I admit I may not
>have been doing it right), and the installation of Amaya went somewhat
>awry as well.  When installing Amaya, it told me that I needed the Thot
>Editor sources, which I can't find, and that I need Motif 1.2 or 2.0,
>which I also cannot find.  If anyone has any information on any of this,
>or just how get a decent browser working on LinuxPPC, I'd appreciate it.
>Oh yes, and I also don't seem to be able to unpack RedHat packages.  It
>tells me I am missing some libraries.  Any information on that would also
>be appreciated.  Thanks

There's no Motif for Linux/PPC (unless you get a source license, which
costs a fortune); try Lesstif, available from http://www.lesstif.org/
(source only) or at ftp://ftp.linuxppc.org/RedHat/RPMS (binaries). If
you installed the RPM, make sure that you get the header files too, at
least if you plan to compile anything that uses Lesstif/Motif.

IMHO, Amaya is not worth the fight; the Thot editor sources are _huge_,
and with Netscape available, why fight with what is essentially an
experimental browser.

Netscape needs some shared libraries, and your Mklinux distribution may
not have included all of them.  You might just install all of the X11R6.3 RPMs
from ftp://ftp.linuxppc.org/RedHat/RPMS; this should probably make
Netscape work.  Here's what it needs on my system:

        libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6.3/lib/libSM.so.6.0 (0x30002000)
        libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6.3/lib/libICE.so.6.3 (0x3004d000)
        libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6.3/lib/libXmu.so.6.0 (0x300a3000)
        libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6.3/lib/libXpm.so.4.9 (0x300f9000)
        libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6.3/lib/libXext.so.6.3 (0x3014c000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6.3/lib/libX11.so.6.1 (0x3019b000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x30295000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x302d9000)
        /lib/ld.so.1 => /lib/ld.so.1 (0x00000000)
        libg++.so.27 => /usr/lib/libg++.so.27.1.4 (0x303ca000)
        libstdc++.so.27 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.27.1.4 (0x30449000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x304c7000)

Look in /lib, /usr/lib and /usr/X11R6/lib to see what you are missing;
my guess it that it is X-related.  If you don't have _any_ shared libraries,
you might as well just start downloading from ftp.linuxppc.org (You would
need glibc, as a starting point).  If you do have the shared X11 libraries,
check to see if the path to them (generally /usr/X11R6/lib) is included
in your /etc/ld.so.conf; if not, add it and type 'ldconfig' (as root, I think)
and try Netscape again.

There's a statically linked build of rpm 2.4 at ftp://ftp.linuxppc.org/users/harry/
which you _may_ need to install (it's a gzip'd tar file, so you don't need
rpm to install it).  If 'rpm --version' is less than 2.4, you probably need
this.

You can get rpm to install packages when it complains about missing libraries,
use the --nodeps option; you will of course still need to round up the missing
libraries to run the software.

 
 
 

MkLinux not on 7300's!?

Post by Nvpiwhgr Jafp » Tue, 03 Feb 1998 04:00:00



Quote:> which I also cannot find.  If anyone has any information on any of this,
> or just how get a decent browser working on LinuxPPC, I'd appreciate it.
> Oh yes, and I also don't seem to be able to unpack RedHat packages.  It
> tells me I am missing some libraries.  Any information on that would also
> be appreciated.  Thanks

lynx works, and in my opinion, nothing beats it.  if you are an
emacs person, there's w3.  it's a bit too slow for my tastes, but it
looks nice.

sounds like you might have the old and broken rpm for ppc.  you might
check to see if it's installing things despite the complaints.  i
remember that you could get it working by nuking the contents of an
rpm directory.  i've forgotten which one exactly, best look it up on
the faq-o-matic.  or find a tar.gz'd rpm package.  you could also
convert things to tarballs with one of the rpm2tgz utilities.

gy