Mandrake on Powercomputer PowerCenter Pro 180

Mandrake on Powercomputer PowerCenter Pro 180

Post by Ian S. Nelso » Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:18:03



I've got a loaded PCP180 and I got Mandrake to install via BootX just
fine but I'm not able to get it to boot up afterwards.  Any one had luck
with this?  I've tried all the different kernels and initrds on the CD,
no luck.

It boots up to the pivot root and then complains about not finding a
root.  Anyway to get the initrd off of the root under MacOS?  This is my
first Linux on oldworld mac experiment

thanks,
Ian

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Mandrake on Powercomputer PowerCenter Pro 180

Post by Whom » Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:44:00



> I've got a loaded PCP180 and I got Mandrake to install via BootX just
> fine but I'm not able to get it to boot up afterwards.  Any one had luck
> with this?  I've tried all the different kernels and initrds on the CD,
> no luck.

> It boots up to the pivot root and then complains about not finding a
> root.  Anyway to get the initrd off of the root under MacOS?  This is my
> first Linux on oldworld mac experiment

> thanks,
> Ian


which mood you're in you'll appreciate in diverse manners the last
paragraph of the README.txt document located in the "Mandrake Linux
Install" folder that you obtained after extracting the .sit archives. It
reads:

<<..Because there is a wide range of possible disk controllers, as well as
various other pieces of hardware, it's possible this initrd may not have
all the modules needed for your particular machine.  The course of action
in this case is to boot the CD in "rescue" mode and retrieve the initrd
created in /boot during the system install, and move it over to MacOS,
either via a network connection or a shared "hfs" partition...>>

Which you can relate to the following paragraph from the CD-ROM
doc/mandrake-ppc.html document:

<...This kernel and initrd will correspond to the kernel installed by Drakx,
and the initrd contains the drivers for the integrated "mesh" and
"mac53c94" SCSI drivers that are fairly common on "OldWorld" macs. If you
upgrade your kernel at some point, you'll need to copy the vmlinuz and
initrd images to the MacOS side to be able to boot the system with the new
kernel. Some users find using a shared HFS format partition helps
facilitate moving things back and forth between MacOS and Linux...>>

Unless you've already installed various distros on old world mac, it takes
some stamina to think about reading both documents and mentally merging
them because, with Mdk 9.1, the policy is too have a "lean" kernel and pack
stuff into the initrd. As if saving 900K was crucial on those old Macs that
people most of the times upgraded with tons of memory.

Hence the "...find using...helps facilitate..." becomes "IF YOU DON'T WANT
TO BE SCREWED MAKE F...ING SURE YOU HAVE THAT G..DAMN HFS STANDARD
PARTITION AVAILABLE...". But maybe they did not want to put that on a CD.

This being said, assuming that you did install correctly the thing and your
problem is in fact to get the "inaccessible" initrd to your MacOS BootX
environment, you've got the following options:

- Boot the install or rescue (whatever) again, until you get a kernel
running (*)
- Mount your installed root one way or another
- If you do have an HFS standard (not extended) partition, mount it too
- Copy the initrd to that HFS standard partition
- Reboot in MacOS and use that copy as ram disk image

(*) If rescue does not do what it's supposed to do and as long as the
installer shows its first graphic screen, you've got a kernel running, so
Ctrl-Alt-F2 will give you a prompt where you can mount your installed
system and the HFS standard partition on /mnt subdirectories.

If you do not have an HFS standard partition that you can mount but have
other networked machines, try rcp, scp, ftp or whatever depending on their
availability and then rapatriate the initrd to your mac. Other solution:
you've got a spared drive somewhere, connect it to the mac, create an HFS
standard partition. Desperate final solution: reinstall the whole thing
(MacOS, Mdk 9.1) after reformatting your drive(s) so that one of them has
at least an HFS standard partition.

 
 
 

Mandrake on Powercomputer PowerCenter Pro 180

Post by Ian S. Nelso » Fri, 27 Jun 2003 21:39:54


Thanks.  Worked like a charm.

Ian



>>I've got a loaded PCP180 and I got Mandrake to install via BootX just
>>fine but I'm not able to get it to boot up afterwards.  Any one had luck
>>with this?  I've tried all the different kernels and initrds on the CD,
>>no luck.

>>It boots up to the pivot root and then complains about not finding a
>>root.  Anyway to get the initrd off of the root under MacOS?  This is my
>>first Linux on oldworld mac experiment

>>thanks,
>>Ian


> which mood you're in you'll appreciate in diverse manners the last
> paragraph of the README.txt document located in the "Mandrake Linux
> Install" folder that you obtained after extracting the .sit archives. It
> reads:

> <<..Because there is a wide range of possible disk controllers, as well as
> various other pieces of hardware, it's possible this initrd may not have
> all the modules needed for your particular machine.  The course of action
> in this case is to boot the CD in "rescue" mode and retrieve the initrd
> created in /boot during the system install, and move it over to MacOS,
> either via a network connection or a shared "hfs" partition...>>

> Which you can relate to the following paragraph from the CD-ROM
> doc/mandrake-ppc.html document:

> <...This kernel and initrd will correspond to the kernel installed by Drakx,
> and the initrd contains the drivers for the integrated "mesh" and
> "mac53c94" SCSI drivers that are fairly common on "OldWorld" macs. If you
> upgrade your kernel at some point, you'll need to copy the vmlinuz and
> initrd images to the MacOS side to be able to boot the system with the new
> kernel. Some users find using a shared HFS format partition helps
> facilitate moving things back and forth between MacOS and Linux...>>

> Unless you've already installed various distros on old world mac, it takes
> some stamina to think about reading both documents and mentally merging
> them because, with Mdk 9.1, the policy is too have a "lean" kernel and pack
> stuff into the initrd. As if saving 900K was crucial on those old Macs that
> people most of the times upgraded with tons of memory.

> Hence the "...find using...helps facilitate..." becomes "IF YOU DON'T WANT
> TO BE SCREWED MAKE F...ING SURE YOU HAVE THAT G..DAMN HFS STANDARD
> PARTITION AVAILABLE...". But maybe they did not want to put that on a CD.

> This being said, assuming that you did install correctly the thing and your
> problem is in fact to get the "inaccessible" initrd to your MacOS BootX
> environment, you've got the following options:

> - Boot the install or rescue (whatever) again, until you get a kernel
> running (*)
> - Mount your installed root one way or another
> - If you do have an HFS standard (not extended) partition, mount it too
> - Copy the initrd to that HFS standard partition
> - Reboot in MacOS and use that copy as ram disk image

> (*) If rescue does not do what it's supposed to do and as long as the
> installer shows its first graphic screen, you've got a kernel running, so
> Ctrl-Alt-F2 will give you a prompt where you can mount your installed
> system and the HFS standard partition on /mnt subdirectories.

> If you do not have an HFS standard partition that you can mount but have
> other networked machines, try rcp, scp, ftp or whatever depending on their
> availability and then rapatriate the initrd to your mac. Other solution:
> you've got a spared drive somewhere, connect it to the mac, create an HFS
> standard partition. Desperate final solution: reinstall the whole thing
> (MacOS, Mdk 9.1) after reformatting your drive(s) so that one of them has
> at least an HFS standard partition.

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