new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

Post by Rich Coo » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00



Hi, as the subject says, sort of, I tried to install LinuxPPC 1999 on my
new AGP G4 PPC box and I can't get the installer to recognize my hard
drive.
Do I need the LPPC2k installer?  How can I make 1999 work?  I tried the
process outlined at the "how to install on a G4" site :
http://www.linuxppc.org/docs/sawtooth-install.shtml
but when i try to run the installer, the boot process stops with a
message about the disk I'm trying to install to.  I can't remember the
message... something like "interrupt error" or something like that.
Can anyone help me with the LinuxPPC1999 install on G4, or should I just
get LPPC2k?  I have t1 at work, maybe I should just d/l and install, but
that gets complicated to, making sure all the files are where they need
to be.
This is all still a bit hard.
Thanks for any help, please Cc: me by email with replies if you can.!
 
 
 

new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

Post by Rich Coo » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00



> Hi, as the subject says, sort of, I tried to install LinuxPPC 1999 on my
> new AGP G4 PPC box and I can't get the installer to recognize my hard
> drive.

Here are the specific errors I get, for those waiting on the edge of their
seats:

I booted using BootX v1.2b3.  I used th vmlinux.benh.15 kernel as suggested
in http://www.linuxppc.org/docs/sawtooth-install.shtml.  The kernel arg was
just ramdisk_size=8192, and the checkbox "No video driver" was checked.
When I booted into linux, the boot went apparently fine, but then it got to
the following, which I quote exactly
partition check:
 hda: hda: lost interrupt
 hda: lost interrupt
 hda: lost interrupt
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major-11, errno=2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major-11, errno=2
mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/cdrom as a block device (maybe
`insmod driver'?)

Then it just repeats the following line endlessly (well, at least 23 times,
once per about 5 seconds until i rebooted):
 hda: lost interrupt
 hda: lost interrupt
 hda: lost interrupt
 hda: lost interrupt
 hda: lost interrupt
 hda: lost interrupt
etc.

Comments?  As I mentioned, this is LinuxPPC 1999 on an AGP G4 fresh from
the store, 2 weeks old.  FYI, the cdrom was in the drive.  :-)

 
 
 

new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

Post by hawo.. » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00




>> Hi, as the subject says, sort of, I tried to install LinuxPPC 1999 on my
>> new AGP G4 PPC box and I can't get the installer to recognize my hard
>> drive.
> Here are the specific errors I get, for those waiting on the edge of their
> seats:
> I booted using BootX v1.2b3.  I used th vmlinux.benh.15 kernel as suggested

BootX is not able to sufficently reinitialize the latest models to
a known state for booting LinuxPPC, you need to use yaboot from OF.
 
 
 

new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

Post by <mgarr.. » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00






>>> Hi, as the subject says, sort of, I tried to install LinuxPPC 1999 on my
>>> new AGP G4 PPC box and I can't get the installer to recognize my hard
>>> drive.

>> Here are the specific errors I get, for those waiting on the edge of their
>> seats:

>> I booted using BootX v1.2b3.  I used th vmlinux.benh.15 kernel as suggested

> BootX is not able to sufficently reinitialize the latest models to
> a known state for booting LinuxPPC, you need to use yaboot from OF.

yaboot doesn't seem to work if you ONLY have SCSI drives on your G4. The
alias "hd:" that is used in yaboot is an Open Firmware alias to, in the case
of G3s and G4s, the IDE bus. If you purchased the LinuxPPC.com cd, and you
can't get it to boot from your SCSI-only G4, give support a ring, or email.
The more paying customers who have the same problem, the more likely they
will come out with a solution.

Mark
--
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new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

Post by Most Wealthy Che » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00







> >>> Hi, as the subject says, sort of, I tried to install LinuxPPC 1999 on my
> >>> new AGP G4 PPC box and I can't get the installer to recognize my hard
> >>> drive.

> >> Here are the specific errors I get, for those waiting on the edge of their
> >> seats:

> >> I booted using BootX v1.2b3.  I used th vmlinux.benh.15 kernel as suggested

> > BootX is not able to sufficently reinitialize the latest models to
> > a known state for booting LinuxPPC, you need to use yaboot from OF.

> yaboot doesn't seem to work if you ONLY have SCSI drives on your G4. The
> alias "hd:" that is used in yaboot is an Open Firmware alias to, in the case
> of G3s and G4s, the IDE bus. If you purchased the LinuxPPC.com cd, and you
> can't get it to boot from your SCSI-only G4, give support a ring, or email.
> The more paying customers who have the same problem, the more likely they
> will come out with a solution.

Thank you.  I have a mix of IDE and SCSI drives (via PCI UW SCSI
card) on my G4.
 
 
 

new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

Post by Most Wealthy Che » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00





> >> Hi, as the subject says, sort of, I tried to install LinuxPPC 1999 on my
> >> new AGP G4 PPC box and I can't get the installer to recognize my hard
> >> drive.

> > Here are the specific errors I get, for those waiting on the edge of their
> > seats:

> > I booted using BootX v1.2b3.  I used th vmlinux.benh.15 kernel as suggested

> BootX is not able to sufficently reinitialize the latest models to
> a known state for booting LinuxPPC, you need to use yaboot from OF.

I see the yaboot "binary" at http://ppclinux.apple.com/~benh/,
but I am clueless as to how to go about using it.  It seems that
when I download the .gz file using Netscape, bad things happen
and I'm left with a text file that Stuffit complains is not a
good .gzip file.  
Furthermore, I have no clue what these "instructions" mean:

Note: If you want to boot with the installer ramdisk, add an
"initrd=path_to_ramdisk" line to the config file section of the
kernel image. You
      should probably also add "initrd-size = 8192".

huh?
How do I use yaboot?  Is there a FAQ somewhere?

 
 
 

new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

Post by Rich Coo » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00


What's an OF prompt?  :-)






> >>>> Hi, as the subject says, sort of, I tried to install LinuxPPC 1999 on my
> >>>> new AGP G4 PPC box and I can't get the installer to recognize my hard
> >>>> drive.

> >>> Here are the specific errors I get, for those waiting on the edge of their
> >>> seats:

> >>> I booted using BootX v1.2b3.  I used th vmlinux.benh.15 kernel as suggested

> >> BootX is not able to sufficently reinitialize the latest models to
> >> a known state for booting LinuxPPC, you need to use yaboot from OF.

> > yaboot doesn't seem to work if you ONLY have SCSI drives on your G4. The
> > alias "hd:" that is used in yaboot is an Open Firmware alias to, in the case
> > of G3s and G4s, the IDE bus. If you purchased the LinuxPPC.com cd, and you
> > can't get it to boot from your SCSI-only G4, give support a ring, or email.
> > The more paying customers who have the same problem, the more likely they
> > will come out with a solution.

> Have you tried looking through the OF device-tree to see what
> it uses for the scsi aliases? yaboot takes cd:, so it would
> probably take sd:, or whatever OF wants.

> If you are using SCSI for your boot device, at the OF prompt, try:

> printenv boot-device

 
 
 

new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

Post by Rich Coo » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00


This is an extremely knowledgable reply to a very ignorant question.  But it makes
me realize, my question is actually, HOW do I install Linux on my G4 in the easiest
way possible?  do i really have to go with yaboot?  Because all this stuff you guys
are telling me is just like Greek...  clue:  i don't know what OF stands for, for
one thing.  LinuxPPC 1999 "just worked" on my PPC 7500.  What "just works" on my
G4?  And how can I get it now?
I downloaded the LPPC2k image and will burn that tonight and try that first.





> >> >> Hi, as the subject says, sort of, I tried to install LinuxPPC 1999 on my
> >> >> new AGP G4 PPC box and I can't get the installer to recognize my hard
> >> >> drive.

> >> > Here are the specific errors I get, for those waiting on the edge of their
> >> > seats:

> >> > I booted using BootX v1.2b3.  I used th vmlinux.benh.15 kernel as suggested

> >> BootX is not able to sufficently reinitialize the latest models to
> >> a known state for booting LinuxPPC, you need to use yaboot from OF.

> > I see the yaboot "binary" at http://ppclinux.apple.com/~benh/,
> > but I am clueless as to how to go about using it.  It seems that
> > when I download the .gz file using Netscape, bad things happen
> > and I'm left with a text file that Stuffit complains is not a
> > good .gzip file.

> I hate it when netscrape does that, unfortunetly it is
> sometimes the server that is doing it to you, so fiddling
> with your helper configuration won't help.

> > Furthermore, I have no clue what these "instructions" mean:

> > Note: If you want to boot with the installer ramdisk, add an
> > "initrd=path_to_ramdisk" line to the config file section of the
> > kernel image. You
> >       should probably also add "initrd-size = 8192".

> These are bootparms for setting up and loading a ramdisk.
> Necessary for installs and rescue boots. They can be
> entered into the yaboot.conf.

> > huh?
> > How do I use yaboot?  Is there a FAQ somewhere?

> I've yet to any documents to speak of, you can look back
> through the archives of the maillists at

> http://lists.linuxppc.org

> Also grab the install docs for ydl1.2 and LinuxPPC 2000.

> There are several ways to set it up depending upon
> whether you want to make the system automatically
> boot to yaboot or MacOS, or use OpenFirmware to boot
> the system. I use a small HFS partition which just
> has yaboot, yaboot.conf, and various kernels, this
> could also be your MacOS partition. At system boot I
> <cmd><opt>OF into OF and then:

> > boot hd:11,yaboot

> Pressing tab lists the images configured in yaboot.conf
> and you type in one and press enter.

> An alternative if you want to make the yaboot partition
> the default boot partition you can put yaboot and
> yaboot.conf into a "blessed system folder", but I don't
> recommend you try that until you have a stable install
> and understand yaboot.conf (and keep your MacOS cdroms
> handy). There's also a slick way to script OF to dual
> boot, see the LinuxPPC developer's maillist archives.

> There should be an example yaboot.conf file in the
> package if you ever get it to download, or get ahold
> of the LinuxPPC 2000 image which uses yaboot to enable
> the bootable cdrom. Once you see the examples, the format
> should make sense.

 
 
 

new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

Post by I R A Darth Agg » Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:00:00


On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:45:15 -0800,

+ I see the yaboot "binary" at http://ppclinux.apple.com/~benh/,
+ but I am clueless as to how to go about using it.  It seems that
+ when I download the .gz file using Netscape, bad things happen
+ and I'm left with a text file that Stuffit complains is not a
+ good .gzip file.  

Yes, netscape isn't quite as smart as it thinks it is. Click on the
link until you bring up a pop-up menu. One of the items is "Save Link As..."
That should cure this problem.

James
--
Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
To cure your perl CGI problems, please look at:
<url:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/doc/FAQs/cgi/idiots-guide.html>

 
 
 

new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

Post by hawo.. » Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:00:00






>> >> Hi, as the subject says, sort of, I tried to install LinuxPPC 1999 on my
>> >> new AGP G4 PPC box and I can't get the installer to recognize my hard
>> >> drive.

>> > Here are the specific errors I get, for those waiting on the edge of their
>> > seats:

>> > I booted using BootX v1.2b3.  I used th vmlinux.benh.15 kernel as suggested

>> BootX is not able to sufficently reinitialize the latest models to
>> a known state for booting LinuxPPC, you need to use yaboot from OF.
> I see the yaboot "binary" at http://ppclinux.apple.com/~benh/,
> but I am clueless as to how to go about using it.  It seems that
> when I download the .gz file using Netscape, bad things happen
> and I'm left with a text file that Stuffit complains is not a
> good .gzip file.  

I hate it when netscrape does that, unfortunetly it is
sometimes the server that is doing it to you, so fiddling
with your helper configuration won't help.

Quote:> Furthermore, I have no clue what these "instructions" mean:
> Note: If you want to boot with the installer ramdisk, add an
> "initrd=path_to_ramdisk" line to the config file section of the
> kernel image. You
>       should probably also add "initrd-size = 8192".

These are bootparms for setting up and loading a ramdisk.
Necessary for installs and rescue boots. They can be
entered into the yaboot.conf.

Quote:> huh?
> How do I use yaboot?  Is there a FAQ somewhere?

I've yet to any documents to speak of, you can look back
through the archives of the maillists at

http://lists.linuxppc.org

Also grab the install docs for ydl1.2 and LinuxPPC 2000.

There are several ways to set it up depending upon
whether you want to make the system automatically
boot to yaboot or MacOS, or use OpenFirmware to boot
the system. I use a small HFS partition which just
has yaboot, yaboot.conf, and various kernels, this
could also be your MacOS partition. At system boot I
<cmd><opt>OF into OF and then:

Quote:> boot hd:11,yaboot

Pressing tab lists the images configured in yaboot.conf
and you type in one and press enter.

An alternative if you want to make the yaboot partition
the default boot partition you can put yaboot and
yaboot.conf into a "blessed system folder", but I don't
recommend you try that until you have a stable install
and understand yaboot.conf (and keep your MacOS cdroms
handy). There's also a slick way to script OF to dual
boot, see the LinuxPPC developer's maillist archives.

There should be an example yaboot.conf file in the
package if you ever get it to download, or get ahold
of the LinuxPPC 2000 image which uses yaboot to enable
the bootable cdrom. Once you see the examples, the format
should make sense.

 
 
 

new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

Post by hawo.. » Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:00:00







>>>> Hi, as the subject says, sort of, I tried to install LinuxPPC 1999 on my
>>>> new AGP G4 PPC box and I can't get the installer to recognize my hard
>>>> drive.

>>> Here are the specific errors I get, for those waiting on the edge of their
>>> seats:

>>> I booted using BootX v1.2b3.  I used th vmlinux.benh.15 kernel as suggested

>> BootX is not able to sufficently reinitialize the latest models to
>> a known state for booting LinuxPPC, you need to use yaboot from OF.
> yaboot doesn't seem to work if you ONLY have SCSI drives on your G4. The
> alias "hd:" that is used in yaboot is an Open Firmware alias to, in the case
> of G3s and G4s, the IDE bus. If you purchased the LinuxPPC.com cd, and you
> can't get it to boot from your SCSI-only G4, give support a ring, or email.
> The more paying customers who have the same problem, the more likely they
> will come out with a solution.

Have you tried looking through the OF device-tree to see what
it uses for the scsi aliases? yaboot takes cd:, so it would
probably take sd:, or whatever OF wants.

If you are using SCSI for your boot device, at the OF prompt, try:

printenv boot-device

 
 
 

new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

Post by I R A Darth Agg » Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:00:00


On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:58:26 -0800,

+ HOW do I install Linux on my G4 in the easiest way possible? do i
+ really have to go with yaboot?

You might be able to get a way with BootX. yaboot is probably a cleaner
way of doing things, tho.

+ clue: i don't know what OF stands for, for one thing.

OpenFirmware. I think. I haven't kept up with Apple's "minor"
advancements.

James
--
Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
To cure your perl CGI problems, please look at:
<url:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/doc/FAQs/cgi/idiots-guide.html>

 
 
 

new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

Post by Jan O Jonase » Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:00:00





> >> Hi, as the subject says, sort of, I tried to install LinuxPPC 1999
> >>on my new AGP G4 PPC box and I can't get the installer to recognize
> >>my hard drive.

> > Here are the specific errors I get, for those waiting on the edge of
> >their seats:

> > I booted using BootX v1.2b3.  I used th vmlinux.benh.15 kernel as
> >suggested

> BootX is not able to sufficently reinitialize the latest models to a
> known state for booting LinuxPPC, you need to use yaboot from OF.

Thats not true, I had LPPC installed and booted it using BootX on my
G4 (AGP too), but because of problems i shifted to YellowDog, which
also boots with use of BootX.
--
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new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

Post by Jan O Jonase » Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:00:00



> This is an extremely knowledgable reply to a very ignorant question.
> But it makes me realize, my question is actually, HOW do I install
> Linux on my G4 in the easiest way possible?  do i really have to go
> with yaboot?  Because all this stuff you guys are telling me is just
> like Greek...  clue: i don't know what OF stands for, for one thing.
> LinuxPPC 1999 "just worked" on my PPC 7500.  What "just works" on my
> G4?  And how can I get it now?  I downloaded the LPPC2k image and will
> burn that tonight and try that first.

Easy? Go get the iso image of either yellowdog or lppc, burn it, RTFM, install.
--
                           Mvh/re Jan Jonasen
                           jonasen (at) it (dot) dk

                           <CENTER><IMG SRC = This could be your ad></CENTER>

 
 
 

new G4 and LinuxPPC1999--no go?

Post by hawo.. » Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:00:00



> On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:58:26 -0800,


> + HOW do I install Linux on my G4 in the easiest way possible? do i
> + really have to go with yaboot?
> You might be able to get a way with BootX. yaboot is probably a cleaner
> way of doing things, tho.

On the latest models it's not likely, though there have been a
few claims of success running BootX as an extension. The problem
is that no one has found a way on the latest models (since
the iMac DV, I think) to reset the hardware back to a known,
configuratable state once MacOS's enablers have mucked around
with it. So the kernel's attempts to initialize the interrupt
controller fails, and without the interrupts it boots but
there is no I/O.

Quote:> + clue: i don't know what OF stands for, for one thing.
> OpenFirmware. I think. I haven't kept up with Apple's "minor"
> advancements.

Yep, at the reboot chime press the four keys <cmd> <opt> 'o' 'f'
 
 
 

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