Mouse-trak trackball?

Mouse-trak trackball?

Post by Jerry Heym » Wed, 11 Sep 1996 04:00:00



One of my users has come across a Mouse-trak trackball (model #B-5XX9P)
that he would like to use instead of his mouse.  We have configured the
kernel for a Logitech MouseMan, and it seems to work.

By seems to work, I mean the arrow moves, the left and right buttons act
normally under the different window managers.  The problem is that we can't
seem to get the center button to function.

I've contacted Mouse-trak, and they wanted to know if there was some diagnostic
that I could run to determine if the middle button was actually being seen.

Is there such a diagnostic that I can use on the serial port?  Or is there
a specific driver that I'm unaware of for the trackball

I did a 'mkdev mouse' to install it...

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Mouse-trak trackball?

Post by Bela Lubki » Wed, 11 Sep 1996 04:00:00



> One of my users has come across a Mouse-trak trackball (model #B-5XX9P)
> that he would like to use instead of his mouse.  We have configured the
> kernel for a Logitech MouseMan, and it seems to work.

> By seems to work, I mean the arrow moves, the left and right buttons act
> normally under the different window managers.  The problem is that we can't
> seem to get the center button to function.

> I've contacted Mouse-trak, and they wanted to know if there was some diagnostic
> that I could run to determine if the middle button was actually being seen.

> Is there such a diagnostic that I can use on the serial port?  Or is there
> a specific driver that I'm unaware of for the trackball

Try `hd /dev/tty1a` (or whatever the port is).

I've got a cheezy old trackball of some sort.  Never could get the
middle button to work.  It sends a bizarre sequence having to do with
turning the other two buttons on and off, but never turning on the
middle button bit, if I remember right.  (Yours is probably completely
different, though).

Quote:>Bela<


 
 
 

Mouse-trak trackball?

Post by Jerry Heym » Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:00:00


: > One of my users has come across a Mouse-trak trackball (model #B-5XX9P)
: > that he would like to use instead of his mouse.  We have configured the
: > kernel for a Logitech MouseMan, and it seems to work.
: >

: Try `hd /dev/tty1a` (or whatever the port is).

Okay, gave that a whirl.

% hd /dev/tty1a
0000

Does this tell me anything?

: I've got a cheezy old trackball of some sort.  Never could get the
: middle button to work.  It sends a bizarre sequence having to do with
: turning the other two buttons on and off, but never turning on the
: middle button bit, if I remember right.  (Yours is probably completely
: different, though).

Middle button appears to lock the left button ...

: >Bela<

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Mouse-trak trackball?

Post by Bela Lubki » Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:00:00





> : > One of my users has come across a Mouse-trak trackball (model #B-5XX9P)
> : > that he would like to use instead of his mouse.  We have configured the
> : > kernel for a Logitech MouseMan, and it seems to work.
> : >

> : Try `hd /dev/tty1a` (or whatever the port is).

> Okay, gave that a whirl.

> % hd /dev/tty1a
> 0000

> Does this tell me anything?

Yeah -- something had the mouse open.  Do it while the mouse isn't
active.  (And again, make sure that tty1a is the actual port the mouse
is attached to...)

Quote:> : I've got a cheezy old trackball of some sort.  Never could get the
> : middle button to work.  It sends a bizarre sequence having to do with
> : turning the other two buttons on and off, but never turning on the
> : middle button bit, if I remember right.  (Yours is probably completely
> : different, though).

> Middle button appears to lock the left button ...

Hmmm, that's what mine does.  Actually, it toggles the left button --
which is sort of useful for click-and-drag -- I find it very clumsy to
roll the trackball while holding down the left button.  That's how mine
is currently configured; I could never get it to work in any mode that
should have given me three independent buttons.

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Quote:>Bela<

 
 
 

Mouse-trak trackball?

Post by Jerry Heym » Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:00:00




: >
: > : > One of my users has come across a Mouse-trak trackball (model #B-5XX9P)
: > : > that he would like to use instead of his mouse.  We have configured the
: > : > kernel for a Logitech MouseMan, and it seems to work.
: > : >
: >
: > : Try `hd /dev/tty1a` (or whatever the port is).
: >
: > Okay, gave that a whirl.
: >
: > % hd /dev/tty1a
: > 0000
: >
: > Does this tell me anything?

: Yeah -- something had the mouse open.  Do it while the mouse isn't
: active.  (And again, make sure that tty1a is the actual port the mouse
: is attached to...)

Okay, shutdown scologin and ran it again.  Here is the results:

0000    80 80 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0010    80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0020    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80
0030    00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0040    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

Line 0000 is when I pressed the left button first then middle
Line 0010 is when I pressed the right button first then middle
Line 0020 is when I pressed the middle button first then again
Lines 0030 and 0040 are random presses of buttons.

: >Bela<

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Mouse-trak trackball?

Post by Bela Lubki » Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:00:00







> : >
> : > : > One of my users has come across a Mouse-trak trackball (model #B-5XX9P)
> : > : > that he would like to use instead of his mouse.  We have configured the
> : > : > kernel for a Logitech MouseMan, and it seems to work.
> : > : >
> : >
> : > : Try `hd /dev/tty1a` (or whatever the port is).
> : >
> : > Okay, gave that a whirl.
> : >
> : > % hd /dev/tty1a
> : > 0000
> : >
> : > Does this tell me anything?

> : Yeah -- something had the mouse open.  Do it while the mouse isn't
> : active.  (And again, make sure that tty1a is the actual port the mouse
> : is attached to...)

> Okay, shutdown scologin and ran it again.  Here is the results:

> 0000    80 80 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> 0010    80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> 0020    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80
> 0030    00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> 0040    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

> Line 0000 is when I pressed the left button first then middle
> Line 0010 is when I pressed the right button first then middle
> Line 0020 is when I pressed the middle button first then again
> Lines 0030 and 0040 are random presses of buttons.

Ok, getting closer.  I suspect the baud rate's wrong now.  You need to
do something like:

  (stty 1200; hd)  < /dev/tty1a

I forget what the original point of this was...  Are you going to learn
the mouse protocol and write your own drive that understands what this
trackball spits out when the middle button is hit?

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Quote:>Bela<

 
 
 

Mouse-trak trackball?

Post by Jerry Heym » Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:00:00



[... Lots of stuff deleted for brevity ...]

: > 0000    80 80 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
: > 0010    80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
: > 0020    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80
: > 0030    00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
: > 0040    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
: >
: >
: > Line 0000 is when I pressed the left button first then middle
: > Line 0010 is when I pressed the right button first then middle
: > Line 0020 is when I pressed the middle button first then again
: > Lines 0030 and 0040 are random presses of buttons.

: Ok, getting closer.  I suspect the baud rate's wrong now.  You need to
: do something like:

:   (stty 1200; hd)  < /dev/tty1a

Okay.  I'll give that a try.  Might take a while because the user is back
to using a three button mouse so that they can make use of TeleUSE GUI
builder.

: I forget what the original point of this was...  Are you going to learn
: the mouse protocol and write your own drive that understands what this
: trackball spits out when the middle button is hit?

Actually, I was trying to determine which of the options from 'mkdev mouse'
would work correctly.  Needing that third (middle) button is the only thing
that isn't working right now with the MouseMan cordless driver

: >Bela<

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