PPP to an ISP?

PPP to an ISP?

Post by Rodrigo F. Alvar » Tue, 10 Sep 1996 04:00:00



Hi again guys,

another of my problems involves connecting my OS5 machine with a
internet service provider using a 33.6k modem and PPP. According
to what I have read, I need to establish a UUCP?? connection
with my ISP's machine...? How do I go about this? I have edited
the UUCP files to the point where I can dial my ISP and get the
modem to connect, but it does not log in (although the login
chat is well configured -- I think.) What do I do after that?
My connection is dynamic IP (different number IP every time) so
I am using the "manual outgoing" config for the PPP link.

I guess my big question is: how do I get from a UUCP dialer that
dials my ISP to a PPP connection?

So far, OS5 has given us more problem (lack of support, impossible
or obscure configuration, etc.) than other UNIXes. I do not know
where SCO plans to go with the new Free OS5, but these issues make
it difficult for an experienced user (let alone a newbie) to use
their OS. Why should anyone experiment with an OS that does not even
support a digital audio card when there are other (seemingly better)
alternatives? (I'm talking of NT, Solaris, even Linux or FreeBSD)..

Thanks for your time, hope you can help me :-)

-- Rodrigo

 
 
 

PPP to an ISP?

Post by Danny Aldh » Tue, 10 Sep 1996 04:00:00


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: I guess my big question is: how do I get from a UUCP dialer that
: dials my ISP to a PPP connection?

Try man ppp & man pppattach.

: So far, OS5 has given us more problem (lack of support, impossible
: or obscure configuration, etc.) than other UNIXes. I do not know
: where SCO plans to go with the new Free OS5, but these issues make
: it difficult for an experienced user (let alone a newbie) to use
: their OS. Why should anyone experiment with an OS that does not even
: support a digital audio card when there are other (seemingly better)
: alternatives? (I'm talking of NT, Solaris, even Linux or FreeBSD)..

I find that SCO get back to me quickly every time I call for help. But
then we paid $2000. US for a 20 call service pack. Oh, you want a free
OS _and_ free support. Well, there are the FAQ; you have read them, right?
There is the support page a www.sco.com, and the on-line IT scripts.
A search there for ppp comes up with a great  PPP Trouble-shooting guide.
There are the man pages. And there is this news group. To suggest that
pppattach is more obscure that dip(linux) , RAS(NT) or aspppd(Solaris)
is baloney. Accept that you are learning a new OS and things will be much
less frustrating.

Danny Aldham

 
 
 

PPP to an ISP?

Post by Andy Walke » Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:00:00



> Hi again guys,

> another of my problems involves connecting my OS5 machine with a
> internet service provider using a 33.6k modem and PPP. According
> to what I have read, I need to establish a UUCP?? connection
> with my ISP's machine...? How do I go about this? I have edited
> the UUCP files to the point where I can dial my ISP and get the
> modem to connect, but it does not log in (although the login
> chat is well configured -- I think.) What do I do after that?
> My connection is dynamic IP (different number IP every time) so
> I am using the "manual outgoing" config for the PPP link.

> I guess my big question is: how do I get from a UUCP dialer that
> dials my ISP to a PPP connection?

> So far, OS5 has given us more problem (lack of support, impossible
> or obscure configuration, etc.) than other UNIXes. I do not know
> where SCO plans to go with the new Free OS5, but these issues make
> it difficult for an experienced user (let alone a newbie) to use
> their OS. Why should anyone experiment with an OS that does not even
> support a digital audio card when there are other (seemingly better)
> alternatives? (I'm talking of NT, Solaris, even Linux or FreeBSD)..

> Thanks for your time, hope you can help me :-)

> -- Rodrigo

Hi,

The UUCP part as you correctly say is just to allow the serial comms bit
to be automated.

My basic guidlines for ppp testing are first to check that you can use
./uutry to dial to the remote host and long in as you require. The login
sequence in /usr/lib/uucp/Systems should look something like:


This used with /usr/lib/uucp/uutry -x9 scorcu
should show you the dialogue and actions upto your login at the isp
assuming your ppp login and password are nppp/nppp123.

However some isp's require you login to a server first then enter the
command 'ppp' or something to get a session going. In that case just add
the expected prompt from the server after the password then the command
required to start a ppp session.

Once the UUCP chat script has terminated if you are using uutry you
would expect to odd characters on the screen as the remote end sends its
first ppp configuration info.

Thats the uucp bit, to get ppp going is in fact done before this. In
your case with a manual link you use pppattach when you want to
establish the connection. It then uses the UUCP subsystem do to all the
serial comms bits on is behalf. When the dial script finishes it tells
ppp the status of the link so it can then carry on or die.

At this point it is a good idea to start with 'debug' on the required
line in your ppphosts file so that so info gets put into syslog so you
can see whats gpoing on.

Hope this helps.

 
 
 

PPP to an ISP?

Post by Matthew Thurmaie » Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:00:00




> > Hi again guys,

> However some isp's require you login to a server first then enter the
> command 'ppp' or something to get a session going. In that case just add
> the expected prompt from the server after the password then the command
> required to start a ppp session.

I would simply add that the On-Line DOC in OSR5 (if that is what
you have) has a listing of all of the escape sequences that you
can use in a uucp chat script.  The doc reference is:
System Administrator's Guide -> Chapter 7, "Connecting to other
computers with UUCP" -> "Adding entries for remote sites to the
Systems file".  At the bottom of that selection is a "Table 7-1
Login (Chat) script escape sequences".  There _should_ be an
analogous entry in previous release's doc.

Matthew

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1. ppp problem with ISP

hello,

My ISP uses PAP for ppp connections. I can login fine using Win98 but
kppp won't login using PAP.  Neither OS will work usinga terminal window
as my ISP has changed their menu system to where a person can't initiate
a ppp link manually therefore it has to be done automatically.
Unforutnately that doesn't work in Linux, as I said.

I'm getting teh 'receive serial link is not 8-bit clean". I'm reading
curently from search results at Google this error usually means that my
ISP didnt' have ppp running on yet on their end. If that is the case
then how is it Win98 can make a connection to my ISP w/o my
intervention? What does Win98 do that Linux isn't doing to force the
server to start a ppp link? There is no way I can use a expect/send
script (in a terminal window) with kppp like i used to. The closest I
can get is using PAP but ppp times out b/c it says I tried to start ppp
when the server wasn't ready so it just dies. But I dont know how to get
the server to start ppp.

I've also read that it may be something to do with the number of bits or
the settings of how those bits are sent, like 8 bits are sent with Non
parity , something like that. Right now Win98 is configured with an 8N1
setting. Where do i look to see if ppp in Linux is setup the same way
and how would i change it if it's not like that?

How does win98 do it and can i do the same thing in Linux? How do i fix
this? Get a new ISP? It has to be something in
Linux if Windows can do it.

My Net connection is the last thing I need to be able to use Linux the
majority of the time I use my PC so I hope I can get it going soon.

thanks
brandon

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