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Is there any product out there that can easily provide terminal emulation
functions between a PC and a Unix server connected to a LAN? I have tried
using Locus Corp's PC-Enterprise with no success. Their support group is
not much help either. I just want terminal emulation.

Regards

Bob Dawson

Quote:> Is there any product out there that can easily provide terminal emulation
> functions between a PC and a Unix server connected to a LAN? I have tried
> using Locus Corp's PC-Enterprise with no success. Their support group is
> not much help either. I just want terminal emulation.

In a recent trial between TinyTerm and SCO TermVision, my customer chose
TinyTerm though the cost/seat was comparable.  We use TinyTerm Plus NFS as
a direct replacement for PC-Interface Plus which we had used for several
years.  

Thank you,
Lucky

Lucky Leavell                            Phone: (812) 945-6555
Relational Information Systems, Inc.       FAX: (812) 949-9233

New Albany, IN 47150-2013                       71534,2674 (CompuServe)
WWW Home Page:  http://www.iglou.com/ris   ftp://www.iglou.com/members/ris

These have both been used in the past to provide the exact SCO Console
emulation that the "Switchview" application requires. Every other
package that I have tested for SCO Console emulation has not worked
100% when used by the "Switchview" application, (most are pretty close
to 100%, but no cigar when used with Switchview).

I believe that the commercial "Kermit-95" product may be suitable, and
it looks like the cheapest SCO Console emulator on the market.

Regards, David.
-------------------------------------------------

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.

"Virtual Reality - Give it a rest, Actual Reality has me stressed enough as it is."

Quote:> Is there any product out there that can easily provide terminal emulation
> functions between a PC and a Unix server connected to a LAN? I have tried
> using Locus Corp's PC-Enterprise with no success. Their support group is
> not much help either. I just want terminal emulation.

----------------
Albert van Alphen
C. Steinweg - Handelsveem B.V., Rotterdam NL

: Is there any product out there that can easily provide terminal emulation
: functions between a PC and a Unix server connected to a LAN? I have tried
: using Locus Corp's PC-Enterprise with no success. Their support group is
: not much help either. I just want terminal emulation.

I've found that the terminal emulation on the PC-Enterprise that we've
tried wasn't nearly as good as the TinyTerm Plus that Locus used with
PC-Interface Plus.

On the other hand, the best performing winsock compatible terminal
emulator that I've found is also probably the cheapest.  Anzio LITE is
a shareware program that is fast, does great SCO-ANSI, and cheap
(around $25/seat).  I've only tried it with win95.  The URL for Anzio
is: http://www.teleport.com/~rsi/

Bill
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: ...
: On the other hand, the best performing winsock compatible terminal
: emulator that I've found is also probably the cheapest.  Anzio LITE is
: a shareware program that is fast, does great SCO-ANSI, and cheap
: (around $25/seat).  I've only tried it with win95.
:
If you buy Kermit 95 (which is also Winsock compatible and which also does
SCO-ANSI emulation) at quantities of 100 or more (the bulk right-to-copy
license), it's $10 a seat, and the unit cost goes down from there as the
quantity goes up.  There is also a 20% government / nonprofit discount.
And for educational institutions, there's a flat-rate site license.
Complete pricing and licensing info at:

  http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95pricing.html

- Frank

When using TT+, I must use the wyse60 emulation (no scoansi) as the
RealWorld box drawing characters don't work. (They work fine under
AnzioLite.)  I have also experienced problems with the box drawing
characters for scosh under the TT+ Wyse60 emulation on Windows 95 clients
(but not on Windows 3.1!).

Looks like TT's support for LPR/LPD and more flexible file transfer
(including FTP) would be a plus for TT.

Thank you,
Lucky

Lucky Leavell                            Phone: (812) 945-6555
Relational Information Systems, Inc.       FAX: (812) 949-9233

New Albany, IN 47150-2013                       71534,2674 (CompuServe)
WWW Home Page:  http://www.iglou.com/ris   ftp://www.iglou.com/members/ris

: Frank da Cruz writes . . .
: >

: > : On the other hand, the best performing winsock compatible terminal
: > : emulator that I've found is also probably the cheapest.  Anzio LITE is
: > : a shareware program that is fast, does great SCO-ANSI, and cheap
: > : (around $25/seat).  I've only tried it with win95.

: > If you buy Kermit 95 (which is also Winsock compatible and which also does
: > SCO-ANSI emulation) at quantities of 100 or more (the bulk right-to-copy
: > license), it's $10 a seat, and the unit cost goes down from there as the
: > quantity goes up.  There is also a 20% government / nonprofit discount.
: > And for educational institutions, there's a flat-rate site license.
: > Complete pricing and licensing info at:

: >   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95pricing.html

I've not tried kermit for win95, but would recommend mskermit and
ckermit.  In run OS/2 ckermit, SCO ckermit, and mskermit over
serial lines, tcp/ip stacks, and various Novell interfaces
(mskermit).  They all work well and do things uncommon in
commercial software (mskermit translates among Japanese coding
schemes on the fly, for example).

: Does this smack of crass commercialism by a "non-profit" (in-so-far as
: the USA Federal and New York's Tax Codes) entity, supported (at least
: in part) by *our* tax payments, in direct competition with those who pay
: taxes on income and profit, on a newsgroup that distains commercialism?

Maybe by your tax payments, but not mine.  Not everyone reading this
group has the pleasure of coughing up for the IRS.

I would be most surprised if the kermit operation is in breach of the
letter or spirit of US/NY regulations on this point.  For example,
non-profit institutions such as hospitals and universities typically
have restaurants or cafeterias.  In that sense they might be seen as
being in competition with the commercial sector.  It does not, however,
seem to be an issue.

--

Earl H. Kinmonth, Kanji Users Service Operation (KUSO!), University of
Sheffield, Sheffield, England S10 2UJ

Quote:>I would be most surprised if the kermit operation is in breach of the
>letter or spirit of US/NY regulations on this point.

At one time, C-Kermit was as unencumbered an any of the other free
software you may use. But then Columbia cut off financial support,
the heads of the Kermit project decided they needed to create jobs
for a full-time support desk, and Kermit changed overnight from
freeware to begware. Suddenly it mattered to the authors of Kermit
whether or not one profited from their software -- they wanted a
piece. BBSs couldn't archive it, CD-ROM producers couldn't include it,
and consultants were prohibited from giving it to clients for free.
A double standard arose overnight; commercial users were being required
to subsidize the academics.

There's nothing technically wrong with any of the Kermit project's
actions, and it has the total right to do what it is doing. Still, it's
been downright sad to see an academic organization pretend to act like a
common ordinary software vendor in the name of preserving a buraucracy.
Incredible wasted potential.

Quote:>For example,
>non-profit institutions such as hospitals and universities typically
>have restaurants or cafeterias.  In that sense they might be seen as
>being in competition with the commercial sector.  It does not, however,
>seem to be an issue.

Still, I don't think I'd ever stoop to compare Kermit to hospital food!

--
 Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd., located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario

I love standards because they give non-conformists something not to conform to

{ >I would be most surprised if the kermit operation is in breach of the
{ >letter or spirit of US/NY regulations on this point.

{ I don't think that Kermit is in breach of anything. What I and others
{ have commented upon is the transition from Kermit being a community-based
{ project (with hundreds of volunteers, contributors and supporters) to
{ a commercial product (Kermit95 isn't even downloadable).

{ At one time, C-Kermit was as unencumbered an any of the other free
{ software you may use. But then Columbia cut off financial support,
{ the heads of the Kermit project decided they needed to create jobs
{ for a full-time support desk, and Kermit changed overnight from
{ freeware to begware. Suddenly it mattered to the authors of Kermit
{ whether or not one profited from their software -- they wanted a
{ piece. BBSs couldn't archive it, CD-ROM producers couldn't include it,
{ and consultants were prohibited from giving it to clients for free.
{ A double standard arose overnight; commercial users were being required
{ to subsidize the academics.

{ There's nothing technically wrong with any of the Kermit project's
{ actions, and it has the total right to do what it is doing. Still, it's
{ been downright sad to see an academic organization pretend to act like a
{ common ordinary software vendor in the name of preserving a buraucracy.
{ Incredible wasted potential.

{ >For example,
{ >non-profit institutions such as hospitals and universities typically
{ >have restaurants or cafeterias.  In that sense they might be seen as
{ >being in competition with the commercial sector.  It does not, however,
{ >seem to be an issue.

{ I have had my complaints with the Kermit project, enough so that its
{ staff have resorted to personal attack in lieu of rational response,
{ all in the name of preserving their own jobs.

{ Still, I don't think I'd ever stoop to compare Kermit to hospital food!

Another note on this: KERMIT95 is available at Egghead for $20 more than
if you buy it direct.  If you tell the order-taker it's supposed to be
$20 less, you'll get it for $20.00 less.

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