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> > I have Verizon DSL (shared with roommates via a hub).
> > I tried "adsl-setup" and followed the instructions
> > from there, but it didn't work. I wonder if this was
> > caused by the fact that it was shared rather than
> > directly connected to Verizon. By the way, Verizon
> > uses DHCP for ADSL service. Any idea?

> in most instances, in order to share the connection to with a
> dsl provider, you need a ROUTER, not a HUB. the router will
> log in to hte provider, get an IP; each individual machine on
> the LAN will get an IP address from the router (192.168.x.x)

> you CAN use a hub, but you'll have to have one machine that
> is set up as a router.

>> you CAN use a hub, but you'll have to have one machine that
>> is set up as a router.

> This may be true in some or most instances but I have Verizon dsl(for
> about 2 years now) and use a Netgear 4 port hub on 2 pcs and 1 laptop.
> Pcs run Win98, SUSE 7.2 and Slackware, lappie Win98 and SuSE 7.2.  No
> router involved, just used netconfig for linux and yast 2 for Suse to
> set up dhcp. At one time I heard that you need a port between your
> uplink port and pc connections left open???? Not sure if this is true
> but that is how mine is set up and works. The pcs usually get assigned
> the same # from Verizone. Dont know if this helps but it's what works
> in my house.

>>>in most instances, in order to share the connection to with a
>>>dsl provider, you need a ROUTER, not a HUB. the router will
>>>log in to hte provider, get an IP; each individual machine on
>>>the LAN will get an IP address from the router (192.168.x.x)

>>>you CAN use a hub, but you'll have to have one machine that
>>>is set up as a router.

>>This may be true in some or most instances but I have Verizon dsl(for
>>about 2 years now) and use a Netgear 4 port hub on 2 pcs and 1 laptop.
>>Pcs run Win98, SUSE 7.2 and Slackware, lappie Win98 and SuSE 7.2.  No
>>router involved, just used netconfig for linux and yast 2 for Suse to
>>set up dhcp. At one time I heard that you need a port between your
>>uplink port and pc connections left open???? Not sure if this is true
>>but that is how mine is set up and works. The pcs usually get assigned
>>the same # from Verizone. Dont know if this helps but it's what works
>>in my house.

> so, let me understand this. you have a hub and have three different
> machines are connected to the hub (say, ports 1,2,3) and you have the
> dsl modem on the uplink port.

> what do you use to connect to verizon? do you use pppoe? static IP?
> when you say "same # from verizon", are you saying each machine
> gets the same IP address?

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> you CAN use a hub, but you'll have to have one machine that
> is set up as a router.

>> in most instances, in order to share the connection to with a
>> dsl provider, you need a ROUTER, not a HUB. the router will
>> log in to hte provider, get an IP; each individual machine on
>> the LAN will get an IP address from the router (192.168.x.x)

>> you CAN use a hub, but you'll have to have one machine that
>> is set up as a router.

> That's not necessarily so. I've had Verizon DSL for close to three years now
> & use a 12 port ethernet hub. This area (Kentucky) is DHCP with the Fujitsu
> Speedport DSL modem. I have as we speak the DSL modem & two computers
> connected to the ethernet hub & both computers have separate IP addresses
> issued from Verizon's DHCP servers. At one time I had 6 computers connected
> to the hub & they were all getting separate IP addresses. The problem
> probably lies with needing a straight through CAT 5 cable between the DSL
> modem & the ethernet hub. I believe the CAT 5 cable that Verizon supplies
> is a crossover.

> >> in most instances, in order to share the connection to with a
> >> dsl provider, you need a ROUTER, not a HUB. the router will
> >> log in to hte provider, get an IP; each individual machine on
> >> the LAN will get an IP address from the router (192.168.x.x)

> >> you CAN use a hub, but you'll have to have one machine that
> >> is set up as a router.

> > This may be true in some or most instances but I have Verizon dsl(for
> > about 2 years now) and use a Netgear 4 port hub on 2 pcs and 1 laptop.
> > Pcs run Win98, SUSE 7.2 and Slackware, lappie Win98 and SuSE 7.2.  No
> > router involved, just used netconfig for linux and yast 2 for Suse to
> > set up dhcp. At one time I heard that you need a port between your
> > uplink port and pc connections left open???? Not sure if this is true
> > but that is how mine is set up and works. The pcs usually get assigned
> > the same # from Verizone. Dont know if this helps but it's what works
> > in my house.

> so, let me understand this. you have a hub and have three different
> machines are connected to the hub (say, ports 1,2,3) and you have the
> dsl modem on the uplink port.

> what do you use to connect to verizon? do you use pppoe? static IP?
> when you say "same # from verizon", are you saying each machine
> gets the same IP address?

>>that's fine and dandy ... some ISPs will dole out multiple IPs for
>>a single account and some dont (mine, for example). it's just like
>>some dialup services; you MIGHT be able to dial up from multiple
>>computers and get an IP, and sometimes only ONE machine will get
>>an IP, the rest will get a logon failure (multiple logins not
>>allowed).

> The original poster specifically asked about Verizon DSL DHCP. Here in
> Kentucky & some other Verizon DSL DHCP markets, if using the Fujitsu
> Speedport DSL modem, the capability is there for multiple IP leases. When a
> new ethernet card's MAC address is seen by the DHCP server, an IP address
> along with a lease is issued & stored within the modem. This is assuming
> that you are using Verizon for your ISP.

> The Illien

>> >> in most instances, in order to share the connection to with a
>> >> dsl provider, you need a ROUTER, not a HUB. the router will
>> >> log in to hte provider, get an IP; each individual machine on
>> >> the LAN will get an IP address from the router (192.168.x.x)

>> >> you CAN use a hub, but you'll have to have one machine that
>> >> is set up as a router.

>> > This may be true in some or most instances but I have Verizon dsl(for
>> > about 2 years now) and use a Netgear 4 port hub on 2 pcs and 1 laptop.
>> > Pcs run Win98, SUSE 7.2 and Slackware, lappie Win98 and SuSE 7.2.  No
>> > router involved, just used netconfig for linux and yast 2 for Suse to
>> > set up dhcp. At one time I heard that you need a port between your
>> > uplink port and pc connections left open???? Not sure if this is true
>> > but that is how mine is set up and works. The pcs usually get assigned
>> > the same # from Verizone. Dont know if this helps but it's what works
>> > in my house.

>> so, let me understand this. you have a hub and have three different
>> machines are connected to the hub (say, ports 1,2,3) and you have the
>> dsl modem on the uplink port.

>> what do you use to connect to verizon? do you use pppoe? static IP?
>> when you say "same # from verizon", are you saying each machine
>> gets the same IP address?

> Sorry for maybe a bit of confusion on my answer here. My setup is from
> the wall to my DSL modem provided by Verizon(at that time GTE), to the
> uplink port on my 4 port hub. PC's and lappie in port 2,3,4 leaving an
> open port between uplink and pc's. Each unit is assigned an ip
> address, each address is different. When I refered to getting the same
> # that meant every time I turn on the pc or lappie it gets assinged
> the same address as it had the last time it was on. It was my
> understanding that this was a dynamic ip not static so I would have
> thought the address may change but it never does. It works and Im sure
> I could put an 8 port hub on and connect more pcs and it would work.
> Beats the hell outa me. I just remember talking to a guy that told me
> to leave  a port open between uplink and the other connected
> ports>>>???? So I did.

> Paul

> The original poster specifically asked about Verizon DSL DHCP. Here in
> Kentucky & some other Verizon DSL DHCP markets, if using the Fujitsu
> Speedport DSL modem, the capability is there for multiple IP leases. When a
> new ethernet card's MAC address is seen by the DHCP server, an IP address
> along with a lease is issued & stored within the modem. This is assuming
> that you are using Verizon for your ISP.

> > The original poster specifically asked about Verizon DSL DHCP. Here in
> > Kentucky & some other Verizon DSL DHCP markets, if using the Fujitsu
> > Speedport DSL modem, the capability is there for multiple IP leases. When a
> > new ethernet card's MAC address is seen by the DHCP server, an IP address
> > along with a lease is issued & stored within the modem. This is assuming
> > that you are using Verizon for your ISP.
> I'm sorry for some of the confusion. Here in Philadelphia Verizon
> suppliesPPPoE software. We get dynamic IPs, though I never really
> check the numbers.My roommates and I use Win98 and 2000 (4 computers
> using 2 cascaded hubs). It works fine. Now I installed RedHat 7.3
> on my computer, and ran adsl-setup, selected the options, but it
> failed to bring up the network. We still have 4 computers, same hardware
> (MAC addresses).