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I am just wondering, what the current status of term. The last
version I am aware of was 2.3.5 which was released an year ago.

Is there still somebody working on it (doesn't look that way).
Are there still people using it (I am :-). Are newer similar
packages like slirp that much better? I had the impression (just
from hearsay), that at least as far as speed is concerned (I am
working over a pretty lousy 14400 bps connection), term is
scoring comparably good. What's your opinion?

Regards,
             Peter

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   Also, according to the SLiRP docs, SLiRP is faster than TERM in certain
situations.  So overall, SLiRP seemed to be better.  TERM is only good for
those who can't run SLiRP.

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Emm, all X programs should run no problem (if you don't count the
probably low speed) over slip/ppp (even slirp-emulated).

: those things can be rewritten for inet sockets. I don't see Term going
: too far in the future, IMHO. It was nice while it lasted though. :)

Agreed on both counts. Nowadays, slirp is simply a better and more
flexible solution if you don't have real slip/ppp account.

        - Mjr

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The opinions expressed above are mine and (hopefully) not those of the
Microsoft Corporation (not that I have anything to do with the thing)

Quote:> Agreed on both counts. Nowadays, slirp is simply a better and more
> flexible solution if you don't have real slip/ppp account.

|> > Agreed on both counts. Nowadays, slirp is simply a better and more
|> > flexible solution if you don't have real slip/ppp account.

In some ways this reminds me of the arguments of Zmodem versus Kermit.  I have
not had success yet getting Slirp to work, and I think it's because I'm going
through a Xyplex terminal server.  Slirp seems to require an 8 bit clean line
(at least for SLIP emulation - PPP can evidently escape out the first 31
control characters, but I haven't gotten that far yet).  Term, on the other
hand will let you escape out all kinds of characters and still work.  Using
term, I have to escape out 5 control characters and 5 characters with ASCII
code greater than 128. I know SLIP via Slirp won't work, and I've yet to see if
PPP will work.  Until then, term works just fine.

William

I use TERM and I don't yet see any alternatives (for me at least) since
I neither have root access nor the power of persuasion apparently needed
to get my sysadmin to install and maintain SLIP etc.

Incidentally, I was unable to set up SLIrP... perhaps I should try again
after I figure out how to get it to compile on a Sun Sparc-10 running
Solaris-2.4. I modified it and got it to compile but it SIGSEGV'ed when
I ran it.

So far I used termify to get practically all I needed to be TERM-aware
but since I converted to ALL-ELF, termify is no longer an option. I now
recompile my executables adding #include <termnet.h> and -ltermnet at
appropriate places in the c-code, header files or Makefiles as necessary.
So far the following have worked that way:

Emacs-19.29, moxftp, Mosaic,Chimera, sendmail, and a couple of other
utilities I use for my daily job.

If you are interested in a term-aware ELF version (libc-2.5.18,GCC-2.7.2)
version of the above let me know. I also managed to build an ELF version
termify. It works with netscape but I still have to figure out some
apparently harmless error messages.

Rgds
Gus

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: So far I used termify to get practically all I needed to be TERM-aware
: but since I converted to ALL-ELF, termify is no longer an option. I now
: recompile my executables adding #include <termnet.h> and -ltermnet at
: appropriate places in the c-code, header files or Makefiles as necessary.
: So far the following have worked that way:

...with ELF it's even easier to make binary programs term-aware
than : just make the runtime linker load an appropriate library via
"LD_PRELOAD". If your're interested, take a look at the
"termwrap" stuff in the term distributions. The Readmes say it's
for Solaris only, but its trivial to adjust it for a linux ELF
system.

Regards
                     Peter

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