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What is the best development tool for the linux os?

So far gnu c++,perl and java seem the most popular.

But is there better development tools out there?

anyone tried PYTHON?

and how powerful is mySQL?

is mySQL as powerful as SQL server or Oracle?

                                                               Linux newb but
not prog newb.
<Dragon Reigns>

uh that remains to be seen.
(explained right below)

Quote:> What is the best development tool for the linux os?
> So far gnu c++,perl and java seem the most popular.

your getting languages and dev tools mixed up.

as for dev tools, i find that using ide (integrated
development environment) is the best way to code.
everything is laid out in front of you and done
(semi) automatically.

personally, i found that code crusader (with code medic)
is one of the nicest.  and they're FREE!!! (a codewarrior
look-a-like app.)

as for language programming, it all depends on what
your needs are.  you can make shell scripts do some
of the things compiled proggies can do (for those
quick and dirty tasks).  really, it boils down to
what the job your code needs to do.

and knowing a bunch of the languages is the best way
to do many of your tasks.

Quote:> But is there better development tools out there?

      ^^

there _are_ other programming languages out there.
one isn't necessarily better than the other.  you are
really asking is one better suited at doing <this task>
then the others.

and that is what you have to be look at.

Quote:> anyone tried PYTHON?

from http://www.cs.tu-berlin.de/usr/python/
-- excerpt --
  What is Python?
  ...
  Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented
  programming language. It is often compared to Tcl, Perl,
  Scheme or Java.
-- end of excerpt --

so, if you have ever programmed with interpreted languages
then it is basically the same.  you just need to learn the
syntax and library functions it provides (just like any other
programming language).

Quote:> and how powerful is mySQL?
> is mySQL as powerful as SQL server or Oracle?

take a look at http://www.tcx.se/

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Happy Coding!
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Nick Shin

Believe it or not, I think there's a pretty good answer to this question
for most of us (ignoring for the moment the difference between tools and
languages). It presumes that Linux is not yet dominating the world, that
application portability to other popular OSes is pretty damn important,
and that Java is not living up to its promises (they shoulda said "write
once, debug everywhere").

Check out wxWindows at http://www.wxwindows.org/.  Incidentally KDevelop
(http://www.kdevelop.org/) makes a surprisingly good Linux IDE for this.

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Quote:>What is the best development tool for the linux os?

XEmacs.

Quote:>So far gnu c++,perl and java seem the most popular.

Java does not seem to be very popular at all under Linux from what I can see.

Quote:>But is there better development tools out there?
>anyone tried PYTHON?

I suggest reading the tutorial at www.python.org and trying it out.  Most
Linux systems should have python installed already.

Quote:>and how powerful is mySQL?
>is mySQL as powerful as SQL server or Oracle?

No, but it's used mostly as a web backend, where it is the right size for the
job.

Dave Cook

Most popular?  Who cares about that?

"Best" depends greatly on what you want to do, not on how "popular" the
language or tool is.  All the popularity in the world won't make Perl
into a good language for writing a 3D * engine, nor will popularity
give C++ the ability to change the way the code works while the program
runs.  (Barring self-modifiying machine code, of course.)  But, C++ does
fine with 3D and Perl can change the code at run-time.

I personally know 7 different computer languages ("know" as in "have
written substantial programs in", not as in "can recognize code written
in") and I don't regret learning any of them.  I just use each language
for different purposes.

So, what do you want to do today?
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:>What is the best development tool for the linux os?

: XEmacs.

:>So far gnu c++,perl and java seem the most popular.

: Java does not seem to be very popular at all under Linux from what I can see.

It's just becouse jdk sucks. Now we have native java compilier in
GCC suite, and things might change.

:>But is there better development tools out there?
:>anyone tried PYTHON?

: I suggest reading the tutorial at www.python.org and trying it out.  Most
: Linux systems should have python installed already.

It is interesting thing - people who didn't try it don't like an idea
(Why, another scripting language? I already know perl and Tcl.
 What, identation is syntaxically significant? I couldn't write on it)

But people who learned it love it very much.
So, it probably worth looking.

:>and how powerful is mySQL?
:>is mySQL as powerful as SQL server or Oracle?
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^
                          You mean Microsoft SQL Server? Any SQL
database IS SQL server, so you shouldn't use program class name as
product name.

No, mySQL is very fast SQL server for Web databases, which don't need
transactions.

Informix,Sybase and Interbase are products of another class (same as MS
SQL Server, which is crippled version of Sybase). All of them available
for Linux at no cost, but not as free software. Free equivalent is
PostgreSQL, but it isn't mature enough for heavy business use (no
foreign keys, and some performance problems)

Oracle is of even higher class. (don't tell me Informix is not worse -
where is varchar(2000), where is sequences, where is column names longer
than 20 chars). It is also available as closed source.

But only Informix seems to have RAD tools ported to Linux (correct me if
I'm wrong about SyBase), if we don't count PostgreSQL's pg_access as
RAD tool.

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Quote:>It's just becouse jdk sucks. Now we have native java compilier in
>GCC suite, and things might change.

That's all well and good that gcj exists.  However, I haven't been able to
get it to work.  I've both downloaded the tarball and used the RPM from
RedHat contrib.  Both scenarios produce the following output:
   Illegal instruction (core dumped)

The jdk, last time I checked, at least processed my .class files.  GCJ seems
to only be fast at crashing.

But-seriously-I-would-like-to-get-it-working-ly,
Steve
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It's great that people are trying gcj but _please_ report any problems
you encounter.  Things get fixed much faster that way :-)

See http://sourceware.cygnus.com/java for access to the bug database.

Thanks!

AG

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