Very Computer

Hello World.

I just downloaded the linux-java port from the blackdown site
and have made little progress (probally old libs); then subscribed
to the linux porting list at blackdown with no response from
their majordomo......

I am getting a sinking feeling that the multithreaded Java code
is not porting smoothly to linux..... can anyone bring me up
to speed on this?

Tim

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Look at the new beta 2 ver 3 of netscape

It has Java for linux :)

Works very Well

I don't think that this was the question, correct me if I'm wrong; I
think that what Alex is looking for is the development system, not a web
browser (although I guess If you have the first you could make the
second, so Netscape co. might know tricks we don't).

I'm VERY new to java, and would be interested in knowing more. Is this
java port really a port of Sun's API?

: I don't think that this was the question, correct me if I'm wrong; I

well, im not completely sure ...
you could be right
but it is nice to know that LINUX/X can now see the nifty JAVA apps...

: think that what Alex is looking for is the development system, not a web
: browser (although I guess If you have the first you could make the
: second, so Netscape co. might know tricks we don't).

well, someone please correct me if im wrong on this:
 i dont think there is any "development system"
 from what ive seen, looking at http://java.sun.com and scanning html
sources it seems that java apps are just like HTML tags, in that they are
(or not) interpreted by the browaer.  Most of the "development" i think
would be just learning the commands and how to write the app.  near as i
can tell from looking at the sources (only got N2.0b3 yesterdat, not much
time yet), it seems that the java APIs are just like some C code that is
loaded by the browser (or not)

correct me if someone knows more about this than i do...

: I'm VERY new to java, and would be interested in knowing more. Is this
: java port really a port of Sun's API?

im not sure about that either...
it seems, to me, that it is Sun's API... but i havent looked that closely
at anything and got interrupted the last time i tried reading the docs on
java...

: well, im not completely sure ...
: you could be right
: but it is nice to know that LINUX/X can now see the nifty JAVA apps...

Its been able to do that for a while now...

: well, someone please correct me if im wrong on this:
:  i dont think there is any "development system"
:  from what ive seen, looking at http://java.sun.com and scanning html
: sources it seems that java apps are just like HTML tags, in that they are
: (or not) interpreted by the browaer.  Most of the "development" i think
: would be just learning the commands and how to write the app.  near as i
: can tell from looking at the sources (only got N2.0b3 yesterdat, not much
: time yet), it seems that the java APIs are just like some C code that is
: loaded by the browser (or not)

: correct me if someone knows more about this than i do...

You need to go back and read a lot more carefully.  You describe
LiveScript, an embedded language in netscape and www pages.
Read about *java*, a full featured language that happens to be
attachable to the web as just one (simplistic) application.

http://java.suncom/
linux-specific on ftp://substance.blackdown.org/pub/Java/linux

--randy

  Andrew> Look at the new beta 2 ver 3 of netscape
  Andrew> It has Java for linux :)
  Andrew> Works very Well

Did you have to do anything special to get it to work?
I tried installing it, and it seg faults every time it loads an URL
with a Hava applet in it... ;-(

Moises
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Hello again....

What I was looking for, in the original post was the up-to-date status
of the JDK port to linux (java compiler, class libs, etc...)

Thanks,,

Tim

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+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Tim Bass                           | #include<campfire.h>                |
| Principal Network Systems Engineer |       for(beer=100;beer>1;beer++){  |
| The Silk Road Group, Ltd.          |           take_one_down();          |
|                                    |           pass_it_around();         |
| http://www.silkroad.com/           |       }                             |
|                                    |  back_to_work(); /*never reached */ |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Quote:> Starting program: /usr/local/bin/netscape

> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> 0x3195cc in ?? ()

Quote:> Wrong, JAVA code is compiled into a Virtual Machine language, that
> appears to be a stack based system. The JAVA->VM compiler (JAVA language
> appears to be very C++ like in nature, if not based on C++) is only
> currently available for Solaris 2.5 and MS-Windows. Whether this porting
> is referring to the compiler I don't know, but I have the VM instruction
> set here with me, and I am considering trying to write a simple JAVA
> program in VM assembler, and if that works, maybe writing my own JAVA
> pseudo language :)

Miguel.
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--randy

: I'm having the same problem with a java page under v20b3:  

: > Starting program: /usr/local/bin/netscape
: >
: > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
: > 0x3195cc in ?? ()

: I'm running kernel l.2.5 with libs slightly order (from 1994).
: Any ideas?      Thanks,   Ed Swarthout