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Fri, 21 Jun 2002 at 02:26 GMT, peering quizzically at his shoes,

Quote:>>Error Log for Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:50:23 -0400: segfault in module
>>"flatfish+++" - dump details are as follows...
>>> Gee, it was there, albeit as a wine port, during the last version.

>>> Seems to be missing in action now.

> 1. It wasn't a native Linux version, it was a pitiful Wine port that
> ran like a slug.

So this "wine port" (not that you actually port stuff to run with
wine, but I'll let that one slide) sucked like hell, and now you're
upset because it's no longer there. Too bad. I think you're the only
one who cares (or even knew about it, if it did exist).

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*Snip*

Quote:> >>It makes perfect sense.  This is just one more of the many commercial
> >>vendors that has produced a native Linux version of their popular
> >>product(s) only to pull them or not release them at all.  You think it's
> >>merely a coincedence?

> >>Best to consider again what Linux is up against.  The more popular
> >>software that is kept for the windows platform only, the less incentive
> >>people have to switch.

> >>Don't doubt for a minute that this is what's happening.

*snip*

Quote:

> > If a product is popular, wouldn't it be wise to keep it in development?

> Only if there weren't pressure from a very influential power to do
> otherwise.

> > My suspician is that the number of downloads of the Linux port was so
> > small (and it was free) Musicmatch decided it wasn't worth it.

> I doubt it.  More likely there is some faction at work to starve Linux of
> the more popular commerical products in the interests of preventing users
> from swtiching to the platform.

Damn rapskat, lots of "grassy knoll" tendencies here...  You are a paranoid
person.

<snip rubbish>

Quote:> It makes perfect sense.  This is just one more of the many commercial
> vendors that has produced a native Linux version of their popular
> product(s) only to pull them or not release them at all.  You think it's
> merely a coincedence?

> Best to consider again what Linux is up against.  The more popular
> software that is kept for the windows platform only, the less incentive
> people have to switch.

> Don't doubt for a minute that this is what's happening.

http://a118.g.akamaitech.net/f/118/1253/1d/63.236.2.20/builds/MMD/LIN...

what the heck's on the other end of that link??? I get a server timeout
error all the time... :(

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Error Log for Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:59:56 -0400: segfault in module "Paul
Cooke" - dump details are as follows...

Exactly.

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Error Log for Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:13:15 -0400: segfault in module "Ray" -
dump details are as follows...

Quote:> *Snip*

>> >>It makes perfect sense.  This is just one more of the many commercial
>> >>vendors that has produced a native Linux version of their popular
>> >>product(s) only to pull them or not release them at all.  You think
>> >>it's merely a coincedence?

>> >>Best to consider again what Linux is up against.  The more popular
>> >>software that is kept for the windows platform only, the less
>> >>incentive people have to switch.

>> >>Don't doubt for a minute that this is what's happening.

> *snip*

>> > If a product is popular, wouldn't it be wise to keep it in
>> > development?

>> Only if there weren't pressure from a very influential power to do
>> otherwise.

>> > My suspician is that the number of downloads of the Linux port was so
>> > small (and it was free) Musicmatch decided it wasn't worth it.

>> I doubt it.  More likely there is some faction at work to starve Linux
>> of the more popular commerical products in the interests of preventing
>> users from swtiching to the platform.

> Damn rapskat, lots of "grassy knoll" tendencies here...  You are a
> paranoid person.

Not really.  I just tend to consider all the possibilities.  This is a
very likely possibility.

M$'s track record of actions far worse than this proves that not only are
they capable of it, but more than willing as well.  They have put many
good companies out of businesses from their shady business tactics, and
Linux is just another threat to their continued success on the desktop
market.  Do not doubt for a minute that they wouldn't stoop this low and
even lower to try and prevent it from becoming more popular.  They are ont
called the "Evil Empire" for nothing.

Perhaps you should find a copy of the Halloween documents and give them a
read to get a better understanding of what Linux and OSS are up against
with M$.

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really why's that? seems ok to me, if you dont like xmms what about
freeamp or winamp as I think they have a vers which runs on Linux.

I used music match under windows quite some time ago and thought it a
buggy resource hogging piece of shit, but thats just my opinion.

Greg

You don't know flatfish?
It will find everything linux looking just horrible, fonts, applications,
the GUI, everything.
And when it does not look horrible (99,999% of the time) flatfish will
report that it does not work ( at least flatfish could not get it to work,
which naturally amounts to "does not work")

Peter
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do not use a hammer. <from an IBM-Manual>

What more do you want?  It plays mp3 and ogg, what else is there for
it to do?  Ability to import other players' playlists, but that's all
I can think of.

Quote:> I used music match under windows quite some time ago and thought it a
> buggy resource hogging piece of shit, but thats just my opinion.

Well MusicMatch is for boneheaded Widiots, a huge bloated spy/adware
piece of garbage.  I guess windows users are used to looking at ads
and having a simple music player consume all system resources, so
maybe that's why he's mad <?>.

The best thing Real could do is commit corporate suicide and do us all
a favor.  They make some of the most annoying, useless software I've
ever seen in my life.

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On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:53:06 +0100, Geezer Wrote in
Steve Ballmers hair grease:

I loved music match when I used windows. Once I started using Linux, I
realized that much of that love was for want of something better.

I even tried early on in my Linux experience to run music match for
Linux. It's not a port. It's the windows version installed with a
script under wine. It's really, horribly, awful. And it crashes.

But no matter. There are so many good OSS media players/burners, that
I don't even think about it anymore.

Cheers,

Mathew

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