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Post by Matthew Gardine » Sun, 01 Jul 2001 20:47:39



Anyone here ever see the documentary on the Russian Tax police?  Maybe
thats whats needed down at Microsoft.

As for the US judicial process, geeze, it needs some *y balls,
instead of being a weak pack of shit,  Anti-trust suites should be quick
and simple, once a decisions has been made, tough luck, no appeals, no
"I'm sorry", you get your punishment, handle it. Microsoft should have
diced and sliced with in the first couple of weeks, and get it over and
*y well done with it.

As for Judge Jacksons comments, wouldn't you crack if for 10 years you
had a company that denied the existance of reality!

Matthew Gardiner

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Post by yt.. » Mon, 02 Jul 2001 00:36:34



> Anyone here ever see the documentary on the Russian Tax police?  Maybe
> thats whats needed down at Microsoft.
> As for the US judicial process, geeze, it needs some *y balls,
> instead of being a weak pack of shit,  Anti-trust suites should be quick
> and simple, once a decisions has been made, tough luck, no appeals, no
> "I'm sorry", you get your punishment, handle it. Microsoft should have
> diced and sliced with in the first couple of weeks, and get it over and
> *y well done with it.

Indeed, though the way of appeal is quite american and fair.  In order for
the innocent who are found guilty in a court of law to be served fair
justice, a method of appeal must take place across the board.

Not that it ever actually works anyhow.  It is estimated (by republicans
no less) that george dubya bush let the executions of 4 innocent men happen
after he was well aware of their strong possibility of innocence, while
he was governor of the great state of texas.

Back to the point:

The breakup of microsoft would have been good for everyone.  It would have
been good for shareholders, it would have been good for competition, it
would have been good for windows, etc, etc, etc.  

The reason that windows (in all forms) is a piece of shit isnt because
microsoft has brain-dead developers.  Its because they havent had
competition of any kind in years, and theyve gotten lazy.

Besides that, even if they had been broken up, they would have coelesced
larger and more powerful than before in less than a couple of decades.
See ma-bell and the baby bells for details.

-----.

--
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---obviously some Godless commie heathen * bastard

 
 
 

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Post by Debian Us » Mon, 02 Jul 2001 02:10:21



>Anyone here ever see the documentary on the Russian Tax police?  Maybe
>thats whats needed down at Microsoft.

>As for the US judicial process, geeze, it needs some *y balls,
>instead of being a weak pack of shit,  Anti-trust suites should be quick
>and simple, once a decisions has been made, tough luck, no appeals, no
>"I'm sorry", you get your punishment, handle it. Microsoft should have
>diced and sliced with in the first couple of weeks, and get it over and
>*y well done with it.

>As for Judge Jacksons comments, wouldn't you crack if for 10 years you
>had a company that denied the existance of reality!

>Matthew Gardiner

I think Judge Jackson did an extraordinarily good job of probably the
most difficult business court case of the decade.  I think Microsoft
were probably hoping that they could drive him to make some inappropriate
remark so they could claim unfairness in the trial, probably the only
means they thought they'd get the result overturned.  It's a very
* tactic, pretty typical of Microsoft.

--
Mark Kent
#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------#
# The only thing the consumer wins from Microsoft is the chance to play again.#
#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------#

 
 
 

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Post by Tom Wilso » Mon, 02 Jul 2001 09:43:31



> As for Judge Jacksons comments, wouldn't you crack if for 10 years you
> had a company that denied the existance of reality!

There is such a thing though as "crossing the line" and "unprofessional
behavior" Jackson, as a judiciary official, deserved to get his *
spanked for those remarks regardless of the circumstances.
 
 
 

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Post by SPAM_BLOCKE » Mon, 02 Jul 2001 15:27:12


It was so stupid of him.

The fact that the decision was thrown out because of it was just as
ludicrous.

Thanks,

Mike

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> > As for Judge Jacksons comments, wouldn't you crack if for 10 years you
> > had a company that denied the existance of reality!

> There is such a thing though as "crossing the line" and "unprofessional
> behavior" Jackson, as a judiciary official, deserved to get his *
> spanked for those remarks regardless of the circumstances.

 
 
 

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Post by Todd » Mon, 02 Jul 2001 15:32:34



Quote:> Anyone here ever see the documentary on the Russian Tax police?  Maybe
> thats whats needed down at Microsoft.

> As for the US judicial process, geeze, it needs some *y balls,
> instead of being a weak pack of shit,  Anti-trust suites should be quick
> and simple, once a decisions has been made, tough luck, no appeals, no
> "I'm sorry", you get your punishment, handle it.

Yeah, we Americans should just institute the Chinese method of dealing with
our problems as you suggested above.

They are GUILTY -> Jail them no appeal.

Stupid.

The *reason* that there is an appeals process is so that *one* man does not
have final judgement.

I read the *entire* transcript of the original court case and it was clear
to me that Jackson was biased *from the very beginning* of the trial.

The people that want MS broken up are OS religious zealots, competitors,
socialists and communists that don't agree with the principles of
capitalism, etc.

Does that mean MS is guilty?  No.

Thank god for our justice system.  And thank god non-Americans have *zero*
say in what we do and handle things.

Quote:> Microsoft should have
> diced and sliced with in the first couple of weeks, and get it over and
> *y well done with it.

In *your*  **opinion** -> but thank god we don't rely on opinions to settle
matters of justice.

Quote:> As for Judge Jacksons comments, wouldn't you crack if for 10 years you
> had a company that denied the existance of reality!

MS defended themselves as the justice system in AMERICA permits.  Just
because Jackson didn't believe them is not MS fault.  Maybe Jackson has a
problem... in fact, he was highly unprofessional and very biased.  As the
appeals court stated.

Please keep your anti-American comments out of Linux advocacy... if you have
a problem with America, let's meet face to face and settle it like men.

Otherwise, shut up and let's get on with Linux vs. the world.

-Todd

Quote:> Matthew Gardiner

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> Please check with Bill Gates before continuing to read this
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Post by Matthew Gardine » Mon, 02 Jul 2001 16:15:04


Did you check with Bill Gates before reading that post, i was using that
an OS that uses the viral GPL license.

Also, you need to get an education laddy. First read the 5 books titled
"Wealth of Nations", then come back with you ridiculous psuedo facts.
The government is there to ensure that the inivisible hand can control
the market without the likes of Microsoft corrupting and manipulating
these market forces.

Microsoft is an illegal monopoly that used its position in the market
place, via their tight OEM licensing scheme to expand it into the
browser market.  READ THE *ING OEM lincesing, then you will see how
Microsoft abused its position.

Yes, they were well in their rights to incorporate the browser into
their OS, however, they crossed the line when they forced, via the OEM
licensing, that if they (the computer manufacturer) installed Netscape
on the computer when shipped, they (the computer manufacturer) would
lose their OEM license, thus, go bust.  Acer is one victim of this
licensing in which they were bullied because they, unlike their
competitors included Netscape AND IE with their computers shipped.

Matthew Gardiner
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Post by Tom Wilso » Mon, 02 Jul 2001 16:22:10



Quote:> It was so stupid of him.

> The fact that the decision was thrown out because of it was just as
> ludicrous.

I'll admit I have mixed emotions about the whole thing. Government
involvement in business matters, even when justified, bothers me.
Particularly when such severe penalties are being considered. One thing
they keep harping on is true to an extent, there are alternatives. Try
as they might, they aren't going to put the genie back into the bottle
where Open Source is concerned. Their recent activities have only
bolstered the need for businesses to keep an open mind to that alternative.

Strong arm licensing tactics for BackOffice customers (Forcing them into
more expensive SQL Server licenses), strong-arming damned near every
other corporate customer into upgrades with the "spend now or even more
after such and such a date" speil, that little "Entering Reduced
Functionality Mode" message popping up on legitimate copies of OfficeXP
and the list goes on ad infinitum.

If they don't ease up on their customers, judicial intervention won't be
needed.

> Thanks,

> Mike

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>>>As for Judge Jacksons comments, wouldn't you crack if for 10 years you
>>>had a company that denied the existance of reality!

>>There is such a thing though as "crossing the line" and "unprofessional
>>behavior" Jackson, as a judiciary official, deserved to get his *
>>spanked for those remarks regardless of the circumstances.

 
 
 

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Post by Debian Us » Mon, 02 Jul 2001 17:14:20




>> As for Judge Jacksons comments, wouldn't you crack if for 10 years you
>> had a company that denied the existance of reality!

>There is such a thing though as "crossing the line" and "unprofessional
>behavior" Jackson, as a judiciary official, deserved to get his *
>spanked for those remarks regardless of the circumstances.

He shouldn't have done it, but it's no reason to overturn his work.  That
should have been considered on its merits.  It's my view that Microsoft
deliberately pushed him to act in this way in the hope that they could
claim that he was biased and get the whole thing thrown out.  They are
very arrogant, and probably thought they could do it.  I think he did
an excellent job in amazingly difficult circumstances.  Victims of bad
events these days get counselling - he probably needed counselling after
listening to Microsoft execs lieing to him year after year.  I know it
would drive me up the wall.  Maybe he could sue Microsoft for this.

--
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#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------#
# The only thing the consumer wins from Microsoft is the chance to play again.#
#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------#

 
 
 

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Post by Tom Wilso » Mon, 02 Jul 2001 17:44:11





>>>As for Judge Jacksons comments, wouldn't you crack if for 10 years you
>>>had a company that denied the existance of reality!

>>There is such a thing though as "crossing the line" and "unprofessional
>>behavior" Jackson, as a judiciary official, deserved to get his *
>>spanked for those remarks regardless of the circumstances.

> He shouldn't have done it, but it's no reason to overturn his work.  That
> should have been considered on its merits.  It's my view that Microsoft
> deliberately pushed him to act in this way in the hope that they could
> claim that he was biased and get the whole thing thrown out.  They are
> very arrogant, and probably thought they could do it.  

Better to let the industry and consumers render judgement on MS rather
than the government. Microsoft has been busy stringing up their own
noose as of late by grabbing at their client's pursestrings during an
economic downturn. The big brother aspect of their current web strategy
and the little "embarassments" concerning a ZDNet editor's copy of XP
shutting itself off aren't helping their cause either.

Besides, you seem to forget all the States involved. MS's litigation is
about as over as that concerning tobacco companies.

Quote:> I think he did
> an excellent job in amazingly difficult circumstances.  Victims of bad
> events these days get counselling - he probably needed counselling after
> listening to Microsoft execs lieing to him year after year.  I know it
> would drive me up the wall.  Maybe he could sue Microsoft for this.

Sorry, A judge not handling those circumstances tells me that he's ripe
for a career change and has no business on a bench. He was esentially
handed a slam-dunk and blew it. End of story.
 
 
 

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Post by Rick » Mon, 02 Jul 2001 20:31:38




> > It was so stupid of him.

> > The fact that the decision was thrown out because of it was just as
> > ludicrous.

> I'll admit I have mixed emotions about the whole thing. Government
> involvement in business matters, even when justified, bothers me.
> Particularly when such severe penalties are being considered. One thing
> they keep harping on is true to an extent, there are alternatives. Try
> as they might, they aren't going to put the genie back into the bottle
> where Open Source is concerned. Their recent activities have only
> bolstered the need for businesses to keep an open mind to that alternative.

> Strong arm licensing tactics for BackOffice customers (Forcing them into
> more expensive SQL Server licenses), strong-arming damned near every
> other corporate customer into upgrades with the "spend now or even more
> after such and such a date" speil, that little "Entering Reduced
> Functionality Mode" message popping up on legitimate copies of OfficeXP
> and the list goes on ad infinitum.

> If they don't ease up on their customers, judicial intervention won't be
> needed.

Thats a load of crap. m4 has never let up on its customers, and it has
only gotten richer. That is because it is an illegaly maintained
monopoly. If the government doest do something to correct it, no one
else will be able to. In fact, many people believe that the only reason
IBM and other visible vendors have publicly gotten on the bandwagon is
becasue m$ was publicly dragged into court, and then made such a poor
showing. Without that public court case, I dobt that Open Source would
have support from the visible commercial vendors.

- Show quoted text -

> > Thanks,

> > Mike

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> >>>As for Judge Jacksons comments, wouldn't you crack if for 10 years you
> >>>had a company that denied the existance of reality!

> >>There is such a thing though as "crossing the line" and "unprofessional
> >>behavior" Jackson, as a judiciary official, deserved to get his *
> >>spanked for those remarks regardless of the circumstances.

 
 
 

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Post by Rick » Mon, 02 Jul 2001 20:35:51





> > Anyone here ever see the documentary on the Russian Tax police?  Maybe
> > thats whats needed down at Microsoft.

> > As for the US judicial process, geeze, it needs some *y balls,
> > instead of being a weak pack of shit,  Anti-trust suites should be quick
> > and simple, once a decisions has been made, tough luck, no appeals, no
> > "I'm sorry", you get your punishment, handle it.

> Yeah, we Americans should just institute the Chinese method of dealing with
> our problems as you suggested above.

> They are GUILTY -> Jail them no appeal.

> Stupid.

> The *reason* that there is an appeals process is so that *one* man does not
> have final judgement.

Thats right. Now an appellate panel has agreed with Judge Jackson's
verdict.

Quote:> I read the *entire* transcript of the original court case and it was clear
> to me that Jackson was biased *from the very beginning* of the trial.

> The people that want MS broken up are OS religious zealots, competitors,
> socialists and communists that don't agree with the principles of
> capitalism, etc.

Since the appellate court upheld the guilty verdict, are you calling
them OS religious zealots, competitors socialists and communists that
don't agree with the principles of capitalism, etc. ?

Quote:> Does that mean MS is guilty?  No.

Um, yes. The guilty verdict was upheld.

- Show quoted text -

Quote:> Thank god for our justice system.  And thank god non-Americans have *zero*
> say in what we do and handle things.

> > Microsoft should have
> > diced and sliced with in the first couple of weeks, and get it over and
> > *y well done with it.

> In *your*  **opinion** -> but thank god we don't rely on opinions to settle
> matters of justice.

> > As for Judge Jacksons comments, wouldn't you crack if for 10 years you
> > had a company that denied the existance of reality!

> MS defended themselves as the justice system in AMERICA permits.  Just
> because Jackson didn't believe them is not MS fault.  Maybe Jackson has a
> problem... in fact, he was highly unprofessional and very biased.  As the
> appeals court stated.

Actually, the appeals court said that Jackson, while giving the
appearance of impropriety, was not proven biased.

Quote:> Please keep your anti-American comments out of Linux advocacy... if you have
> a problem with America, let's meet face to face and settle it like men.

EEWWwwww.. there's a thought. NOT.

Quote:> Otherwise, shut up and let's get on with Linux vs. the world.

> -Todd

If m$ is not taken out, there will be very little world for Linux to
take.

- Show quoted text -

Quote:> > Matthew Gardiner

> > --
> > WARNING:

> > This email was written on an OS using the viral 'GPL' as it's license.

> > Please check with Bill Gates before continuing to read this
> > email/posting.

 
 
 

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Post by Aaron R. Kulki » Tue, 03 Jul 2001 07:43:34




> >Anyone here ever see the documentary on the Russian Tax police?  Maybe
> >thats whats needed down at Microsoft.

> >As for the US judicial process, geeze, it needs some *y balls,
> >instead of being a weak pack of shit,  Anti-trust suites should be quick
> >and simple, once a decisions has been made, tough luck, no appeals, no
> >"I'm sorry", you get your punishment, handle it. Microsoft should have
> >diced and sliced with in the first couple of weeks, and get it over and
> >*y well done with it.

> >As for Judge Jacksons comments, wouldn't you crack if for 10 years you
> >had a company that denied the existance of reality!

> >Matthew Gardiner

> I think Judge Jackson did an extraordinarily good job of probably the
> most difficult business court case of the decade.  I think Microsoft
> were probably hoping that they could drive him to make some inappropriate
> remark so they could claim unfairness in the trial, probably the only
> means they thought they'd get the result overturned.  It's a very
> * tactic, pretty typical of Microsoft.

I think it would be funny if the new judge agrees with what Judge
Jackson said originally...that the 2-way split was NOT ENOUGH PUNISHMENT.

Especially in light of the cost of Lose2k and LoseXP being more
astronomical than ever...

Quote:> --
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> #-----------------------------------------------------------------------------#
> # The only thing the consumer wins from Microsoft is the chance to play again.#
> #-----------------------------------------------------------------------------#

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        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   *ery while concurrently committing *ery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

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Enforcing a settlement, when/if made:

Post by Aaron R. Kulki » Tue, 03 Jul 2001 07:46:08




> > As for Judge Jacksons comments, wouldn't you crack if for 10 years you
> > had a company that denied the existance of reality!

> There is such a thing though as "crossing the line" and "unprofessional
> behavior" Jackson, as a judiciary official, deserved to get his *
> spanked for those remarks regardless of the circumstances.

True...but that should have been a seperate issue.

I.e. Jackson's ruling stands (since the court of appeals could find no
evidence of actual bias), but then he faces disciplinary action himself
(for creating the _appearance_ of bias)

Likewise, when criminal cases come up, and illegally obtained evidence
is submitted...sure...keep the evidence in the trial....and then prosecute
the POLICE involved for whatever illegal conduct they committed to
obtain the illegally-obtained evidence.

--
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Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   *ery while concurrently committing *ery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

 
 
 

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Post by Aaron R. Kulki » Tue, 03 Jul 2001 07:46:42



Quote:

> It was so stupid of him.

> The fact that the decision was thrown out because of it was just as
> ludicrous.

Quite right.

A more reasonable decision would be to divide Microsoft into 3 or 4 companies.

> Thanks,

> Mike

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> > > As for Judge Jacksons comments, wouldn't you crack if for 10 years you
> > > had a company that denied the existance of reality!

> > There is such a thing though as "crossing the line" and "unprofessional
> > behavior" Jackson, as a judiciary official, deserved to get his *
> > spanked for those remarks regardless of the circumstances.

--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   *ery while concurrently committing *ery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

 
 
 

1. enforce ftp, deny ssh, enforce ssh, deny ftp

Hello,

I want my users to have two different accounts, one for ssh and one for ftp.
Let's divide them in two groups, ssh_users and ftp_users.

The ssh_users are real users, e.g they have normal user's rights BUT may not
use ftp for connection.
The ftp_users are guest users, e.g they may only connect to ftp where they
are chroot:ed to their home_dir.

This may seem weird, but since I don't want shell owners to send passwords
using ftp clients (clear text mode) and since I couldn't come up with a
better idea, this is it. Now, how do we accomplish this nifty workaround?

ssh_users got added to /etc/ftpusers, which will deny them from accessing
ftp.
ftp_users' seventh field in /etc/passwd was changed to 'false', which means,
no shell.

Well, so far so good but it's kind of a quick-and-dirty solution to the
problem. I guess there must be some better way.

/The Wonderer

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