Very Computer

I just wanted to say that my Slrn is now better than ever. I've increased
the speed at which I can score threads and trolls out of existence with two
simple scripts, "notroll" and "nothread." All I do is use the "pipe to
external command" keystroke in Slrn, and type in either "notroll" or
"nothread," depending on what I want to get rid of. As if that isn't fast
enough, Slrn has a pipe-to command history, so I only have to type each once
per session.

So, in summary, I can instantly kill a troller or lame thread with two
keystrokes, and with 100 per cent accuracy, (no Google rules for me.) Let's
see Knode or Pan do that.  :p

--
Bones

[snip]

I'd also like to state that I can't handle the word "now" in a subject line.
It's complexities are beyond my grasp.

--
Bones

Error Log for Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:00:02 +0000: segfault in module "Bones" -
dump details are as follows...

Quote:> I just wanted to say that my Slrn is now better than ever. I've increased
> the speed at which I can score threads and trolls out of existence with
> two simple scripts, "notroll" and "nothread." All I do is use the "pipe to
> external command" keystroke in Slrn, and type in either "notroll" or
> "nothread," depending on what I want to get rid of. As if that isn't fast
> enough, Slrn has a pipe-to command history, so I only have to type each
> once per session.

> So, in summary, I can instantly kill a troller or lame thread with two
> keystrokes, and with 100 per cent accuracy, (no Google rules for me.)
> Let's see Knode or Pan do that.  :p

Argh!  I have to admit that slrn is tops for features and speed, but I still
prefer Pan.

Version 14.0 on Pan slated for release long time from now is supposed to
have a non-graphical daemon-like procedure that will operate much in the
same manner as slrn-pull, so you can set it up as a background job and it
will pull in all of your posts from the server, applying any filters as it
goes.

And as of 13.0, Pan finally is able to launch external programs to generate
sigs, so I no longer have to run a cron job to update my sigfile.  This does
concern me a bit wrt security though.

Chuck also says that there is supposed to be a scoring implementation in the
works for a nearby version, and once that happens, Pan will be invincible!

MUHAAAHAAAHAAAAHAAAAA.....*cough*hak*hack*!!

damn, I gotta quit smoking!

--
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111 processes: 107 sleeping, 3 running, 1 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:  0.6% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice,  0.6% idle

One of the large consolations for experiencing anything unpleasant is
the knowledge that one can communicate it.
                -- Joyce Carol Oates

[snip]

Quote:> Version 14.0 on Pan slated for release long time from now is supposed to
> have a non-graphical daemon-like procedure that will operate much in the
> same manner as slrn-pull, so you can set it up as a background job and it
> will pull in all of your posts from the server, applying any filters as it
> goes.

What "spool format" does Pan use? Perhaps it is already compatible? Anyway,
I have THE POWAH to do those things right now. By the time Pan catches up,
us Slrn users will have already evolved to the point where we can write
S-Lang scripts which can kill offensive posters at a distance. We will then
rule the world, if Linus doesn't first.

Quote:> And as of 13.0, Pan finally is able to launch external programs to generate
> sigs, so I no longer have to run a cron job to update my sigfile.  This does
> concern me a bit wrt security though.
> Chuck also says that there is supposed to be a scoring implementation in the
> works for a nearby version, and once that happens, Pan will be invincible!

Is Pan vulnerable to circular references? Or was it KNode which would lock
up on those? Sorry, I'm a Slrn snob -- there are no other newsreaders.

Quote:> MUHAAAHAAAHAAAAHAAAAA.....*cough*hak*hack*!!
> damn, I gotta quit smoking!

LOL. That helps little for the first few years after. I'm still hacking, and
I quit about ~4 months ago.

--
Bones

On 20 Sep 2002 19:41:27 GMT, Bones assert()ed:

I'm looking for an X newsreader that can share slrn's .jnewsrc.  Is there
one?

--
General Protection Fault

  2:50pm  up 9 days, 20:20,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00
Linux nitrogen.ertw.com 2.4.9-34 #1 Sat Jun 1 06:32:14 EDT 2002 i586 unknown

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On 20 Sep 2002 18:00:02 GMT,

I play with pan from time to time, it's kinda pretty, but lacks features
that I use daily with slrn. I haven't used Knode since the very early
versions, can't compare there. Every newsreader I have tried, falls down
compared to slrn. It's not without it's flaws, but they are far fewer
than any other one I have tried.

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--
Jim Richardson
        Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, from watches to supercomputers, for grandmas and geeks.

On fre, 20 sep 2002 at 21:41 GMT, gazing longingly at the horizon,

felt a deep, passionate desire to let the following be known:

Unless Linus uses slrn, we will win either way.

--
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.      Perth ---> *
 11:03pm  up 17 days, 23:40,  8 users,  load average: 0.12, 0.10, 0.09
$ cat /dev/bollocks                      Registered Linux user #261729
target real-time networks

On fre, 20 sep 2002 at 21:52 GMT, gazing longingly at the horizon,

felt a deep, passionate desire to let the following be known:

Quote:> I'm looking for an X newsreader that can share slrn's .jnewsrc. Is
> there one?

Doesn't pan have the option to import a regular .newsrc at startup
and export when it's finished? Or am I confusing it with some other
inferior product?

--
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.      Perth ---> *
 11:04pm  up 17 days, 23:41,  8 users,  load average: 0.05, 0.08, 0.08
$ cat /dev/bollocks                      Registered Linux user #261729
benchmark visionary markets

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On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:52:10 GMT,

Pan will import and export from/to a .newsrc file. Just point it to your
.jnewsrc file. Importing seems pretty slow on a large .newsrc though.
But it works.

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--
Jim Richardson
        Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, from watches to supercomputers, for grandmas and geeks.

Quote:> Johan Lindquist included in his headers:

   X-Penguin: Tux
   X-Men: Fiction

Heh. I just noticed this. I couldn't find anything about these in any RFCs.

Oh, and Philicorda also specifies an X-turnip: line.

You guys are sneaky.

--
Bones
(fakemccoy at <i don't have an e-mail address anymore>)

They really aren't that amazing. They're just Tcl scripts that take the
piped post (piped by Slrn that is) from `stdin,' search for a particular
header line, then append it to my score file. Something like this:

   #!/usr/bin/tclsh
   # Score-out a particular thread

   set line ""
   set subject ""
   set scorefile ""

   while { ![eof stdin] } {
      set line [gets stdin]
      if { [string range $line 0 7] == "Subject:" } {
         set subject $line
         break
         }
      }

   if { $subject != "" } {
      set scorefile [open "~/.score" "a"]
      puts $scorefile "Score: -9999\n$subject"
      close $scorefile
   }

   exit

It doesn't get much more complicated than that. Oh, and you have to apply
the changes to the score file to make the garbage posts disappear entirely
and permanently. But I can score out a few dozen trollers/threads/refs
inside of a minute, and apply all the changes at once.

--
Bones
(fakemccoy at <i don't have an e-mail address anymore>)

Well, you could add an

X-Smoker:

line.

--
| If things don't work and you don't know why, you're in trouble. |
|   If things *do* work and you don't know why, you're doomed.    |

Error Log for Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:41:27 +0000: segfault in module "Bones" -
dump details are as follows...

Quote:>> And as of 13.0, Pan finally is able to launch external programs to
>> generate sigs, so I no longer have to run a cron job to update my
>> sigfile.  This does concern me a bit wrt security though.
>> Chuck also says that there is supposed to be a scoring implementation in
>> the works for a nearby version, and once that happens, Pan will be
>> invincible!

> Is Pan vulnerable to circular references? Or was it KNode which would lock
> up on those? Sorry, I'm a Slrn snob -- there are no other newsreaders.

I think it was, wasn't there an issue in this group aways back with a
circular reference that screwed up some readers?

Anyway, this has been addressed and fixed since 11.x IIRC.

--
rapskat -  11:46pm  up 3 days, 23:40,  4 users,  load average: 0.45, 0.33, 0.24
112 processes: 108 sleeping, 3 running, 1 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:  0.5% user,  0.4% system,  0.0% nice,  0.5% idle

Long life is in store for you.

On l?r, 21 sep 2002 at 03:45 GMT, gazing longingly at the horizon,

felt a deep, passionate desire to let the following be known:

Quote:>> Johan Lindquist included in his headers:
>    X-Penguin: Tux
>    X-Men: Fiction

> Heh. I just noticed this. I couldn't find anything about these in
> any RFCs.

You didn't read the .secret-r00tk1t-backdoor-access-control-headers
file in the rapskat-13e distribution, did you?

Quote:> Oh, and Philicorda also specifies an X-turnip: line.

> You guys are sneaky.

I like to think it's a feature that makes it easier to killfile me if
you find me a too obnoxious arrogant bastard. Obviously, my arrogance
extends so far as to assume everyone who does is using a news client
capable of scoring on these headers.

--
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.      Perth ---> *
 12:10pm  up 18 days, 12:47,  8 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.10, 0.09
$ cat /dev/bollocks                      Registered Linux user #261729
exploit customized infomediaries

For it was written by Bones:

Quote:>> Johan Lindquist included in his headers:

>    X-Penguin: Tux
>    X-Men: Fiction

> Heh. I just noticed this. I couldn't find anything about these in any
> RFCs.

> Oh, and Philicorda also specifies an X-turnip: line.

> You guys are sneaky.

Well, well, well. I didn't know you could do this! All manner of
silliness will now ensue... starting with this post.

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one with a vegetable obsession here.

--
Ian

Here with a loaf of bread beneath the bough
A flask of wine, an onion, a book of verse -- and thou
Beside me singing in the wilderness
And wilderness is paradise enow.