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SuSE 8.2 - possibly a waste of money

SuSE 8.2 - possibly a waste of money

Post by Willy Swango I » Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:34:51




> I'm new to Linux and was hoping to experience some of the great things
> of SuSE 8.2 that I've read about which lead up to my purchasing the
> personal version of it last weekend.

> To start with I have a Pentium IV machine with over 750MB of RAM, Two
> HD's with lots of GB of spare storage, Nvidia GeForce 128MB video
> card, and some other very current cards (sound, NIC, etc.) which are
> all acceptable according the recommended hardware for SuSE 8.2.

> I'm run a web design business, and rely almost 100% on Macromedia
> software for web development and graphic design, and Quickbooks Pro to
> run the books. Until those apps are supported on Linux, replacing
> Windows XP Pro with Linux isn't going to be feasible, but I wanted to
> start learning it so when (and if) the day comes, I'll have a head
> start.

> Installation was absolutely a nightmare, but after about half the day,
> I finally was able to complete installation through the manual
> process. All to find out that when I rebooted I got a blank screen on
> my LCD monitor (and yes, I DID select the right LCD monitor for the
> configuration.

> Not being a guru of Linux at any scale, I called tech support only to
> discover that the only way to fix it is to do a whole new installation
> - one that obviously didn't work for me. What I was (and am still)
> hoping for is some sort of solution that will get my Linux
> installation up and running so I can start using and learning it. I'm
> not big on wasting money on software experiments, but at this point
> that's all it is.

> From my experience thus far, SuSE 8.2 is NOT where you should put $50
> toward learning Linux.

> Educated Linux gurus - feel free to correct me if I'm wrong and I'd
> love some help if it's possible to fix the display issue without
> reinstalling everything. I can ONLY get a manual installation
> completed. It hangs during every other installation at the point of
> detecting hard drive data.

Maybe you should try Gentoo instead?
It allows you to compile everything from scratch and by the time you
finish the install you will no longer be a nubee.
 
 
 
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SuSE 8.2 - possibly a waste of money

Post by Jeremy Nimm » Fri, 06 Jun 2003 11:58:57





>> I'm new to Linux and was hoping to experience some of the great things
>> of SuSE 8.2 that I've read about which lead up to my purchasing the
>> personal version of it last weekend.

>> To start with I have a Pentium IV machine with over 750MB of RAM, Two
>> HD's with lots of GB of spare storage, Nvidia GeForce 128MB video
>> card, and some other very current cards (sound, NIC, etc.) which are
>> all acceptable according the recommended hardware for SuSE 8.2.

>> I'm run a web design business, and rely almost 100% on Macromedia
>> software for web development and graphic design, and Quickbooks Pro to
>> run the books. Until those apps are supported on Linux, replacing
>> Windows XP Pro with Linux isn't going to be feasible, but I wanted to
>> start learning it so when (and if) the day comes, I'll have a head
>> start.

>> Installation was absolutely a nightmare, but after about half the day,
>> I finally was able to complete installation through the manual
>> process. All to find out that when I rebooted I got a blank screen on
>> my LCD monitor (and yes, I DID select the right LCD monitor for the
>> configuration.

>> Not being a guru of Linux at any scale, I called tech support only to
>> discover that the only way to fix it is to do a whole new installation
>> - one that obviously didn't work for me. What I was (and am still)
>> hoping for is some sort of solution that will get my Linux
>> installation up and running so I can start using and learning it. I'm
>> not big on wasting money on software experiments, but at this point
>> that's all it is.

>> From my experience thus far, SuSE 8.2 is NOT where you should put $50
>> toward learning Linux.

>> Educated Linux gurus - feel free to correct me if I'm wrong and I'd
>> love some help if it's possible to fix the display issue without
>> reinstalling everything. I can ONLY get a manual installation
>> completed. It hangs during every other installation at the point of
>> detecting hard drive data.

> Maybe you should try Gentoo instead?
> It allows you to compile everything from scratch and by the time you
> finish the install you will no longer be a nubee.

I use Gentoo. The install does certainly shows you a bit, but setting up and
running through the install guide on Debian will probably teach you more.

 
 
 
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SuSE 8.2 - possibly a waste of money

Post by Rick » Mon, 09 Jun 2003 20:27:34



>>I'm new to Linux and was hoping  

> Maybe you should try Gentoo instead?
> It allows you to compile everything from scratch and by the time you
> finish the install you will no longer be a nubee.

Neither will your kids :)
SuSE is great for getting your feet wet.
 
 
 
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SuSE 8.2 - possibly a waste of money

Post by MM3ND » Mon, 09 Jun 2003 21:10:03


Complete n00b... wear the Red Hat and you'll see simplicity..
then try Debian when you want your OS to do what you want it to do...
Then when you're really brave, try WinXP ;o)

Nathan D Higgins



> >>I'm new to Linux and was hoping

> > Maybe you should try Gentoo instead?
> > It allows you to compile everything from scratch and by the time you
> > finish the install you will no longer be a nubee.

> Neither will your kids :)
> SuSE is great for getting your feet wet.

 
 
 
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SuSE 8.2 - possibly a waste of money

Post by spi.. » Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:48:30




>> I'm new to Linux and was hoping to experience some of the great things
>> of SuSE 8.2 that I've read about which lead up to my purchasing the
>> personal version of it last weekend.

>> To start with I have a Pentium IV machine with over 750MB of RAM, Two
>> HD's with lots of GB of spare storage, Nvidia GeForce 128MB video
>> card, and some other very current cards (sound, NIC, etc.) which are
>> all acceptable according the recommended hardware for SuSE 8.2.

>> I'm run a web design business, and rely almost 100% on Macromedia
>> software for web development and graphic design, and Quickbooks Pro to
>> run the books. Until those apps are supported on Linux, replacing
>> Windows XP Pro with Linux isn't going to be feasible, but I wanted to
>> start learning it so when (and if) the day comes, I'll have a head
>> start.

>> Installation was absolutely a nightmare, but after about half the day,
>> I finally was able to complete installation through the manual
>> process. All to find out that when I rebooted I got a blank screen on
>> my LCD monitor (and yes, I DID select the right LCD monitor for the
>> configuration.

>> Not being a guru of Linux at any scale, I called tech support only to
>> discover that the only way to fix it is to do a whole new installation
>> - one that obviously didn't work for me. What I was (and am still)
>> hoping for is some sort of solution that will get my Linux
>> installation up and running so I can start using and learning it. I'm
>> not big on wasting money on software experiments, but at this point
>> that's all it is.

Simple one.
At the boot prompt (just after the bios post) enter this line....

linux 3 vga=normal

This forces linux to boot into runlevel 3 (rather than 5 which starts the X
display manager or equivalent). vga=normal disables the frame buffer forcing
normal textmode. It's possible the framebuffer is causing the problem, or X,
but this will force the thing to boot into a text only screen.

Then, login as root, run SaX2 and configure your graphics setup a little
more conservatively. (remembering to select the correct graphics card and
monitor... if that works when you hit test, save it, if not, reduce the
frequencies and/or resolutions a little and hit test again.)

 
 
 
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SuSE 8.2 - possibly a waste of money

Post by grahamilto » Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:47:16


hehe


> Complete n00b... wear the Red Hat and you'll see simplicity..
> then try Debian when you want your OS to do what you want it to do...
> Then when you're really brave, try WinXP ;o)

> Nathan D Higgins




> > >>I'm new to Linux and was hoping

> > > Maybe you should try Gentoo instead?
> > > It allows you to compile everything from scratch and by the time you
> > > finish the install you will no longer be a nubee.

> > Neither will your kids :)
> > SuSE is great for getting your feet wet.

 
 
 
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1. ALERT! SUSE LINUX A WASTE OF MONEY!

Mallard, you might want to check to see how many people have had problems
with the "Window 2000/XP/ME" installs. ME is a very good example of wasted
money. W2K has had three service packs, and I know people that have
purchased XP that still can not get it installed. You might also get
Windows installed, but what is worse is when you install a few apps and
things start crashing down on you.

Linux does not have uninstall problems, nor do new installs put everything
into chaos.. Where is the tradeoff?? I would rather have problems
installing then to have things a few months later come crashing down. It is
much more difficult to get back to where you were. Windows, any version, is
notorious for crashing after several application installs. Windows will
eventually have you re-installing everything, or at least that has been my
experience in the last 10 years..

I think every operating system has had its problems, but I can say that my
Athlon 1800/MSI KT333/1GB Memory/GForce 2, and ATI Radion 7500 works great.
I think Suse has been the easiest to install out of all the versions of
Linux.

2. Poor Netware Support on Netscape's end for Linux / Unix

3. Suse 8.2 and wireless pcmcia notebook networking

4. 3com 3C905B-TX support

5. Connection Sharing on SuSE 8.2

6. Printing ISO A3 document to B-size paper?

7. Anyone made Xine to show all DVDs under SuSE 8.2?

8. Jumpstart problem

9. SuSE 8.2 and bt878 tv-card(AverTV Go Series)

10. USB Wireless set up in Suse 8.2

11. SuSE 8.2 and Linpoch

12. Install fireware on Linux Suse 8.2

13. Scanner Epson perfection 1670 suse 8.2


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