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by **Terry Port** » Fri, 14 Dec 2001 22:09:53

Easy, just add:-

"0 12 * * * /usr/sbin/rdate -s 129.6.15.28"

tp your root crontab, and everyday your clock will be
updated at midday. You may not have the "rdate"
program installed, or it may nor be in /usr/bin
as it is on my Debian system.

To find out if "rdate" is on your Linux box, just
try "locate rdate".

What is 129.6.15.28 ?

National Institute of Standards and Technology (NET-NBS)
100 Bureau Drive Stop 8953
Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8953
US

Netname: NIST
Netblock: 129.6.0.0 - 129.6.255.255

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by **Donn Mille** » Fri, 14 Dec 2001 22:42:46

> Easy, just add:-

> "0 12 * * * /usr/sbin/rdate -s 129.6.15.28"

I don't have rdate on my machine here, but I DO have ntpdate/ntdp. There
are many different servers you can use. A couple that I use are
tick.mit.edu, ntp.alaska.edu. and clock.via.net.

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by **Matthew Gardine** » Sat, 15 Dec 2001 06:53:24

this motion:

> > > Yawnnnn.

> > > A click on the clock on the XP Taskbar and select "Internet Time" and
> > > you're all set.

> > > Try again porter.

> > > Add BTW how many weeks did you spend trying to figure out that cryptic
> > > command?

> > > Once again Linux invents the wheel and it's square.

> > Actually, Microsoft took that UNIX invention and added a little
> > GUI front-end to it. Big deal. They probably bought the
> > code from an outfit like Chameleon Clock.

> > Chris

> > --
> > Living large and loving Linux!

> errr... what did UNIX invent? Having a clock on your taskbar? I doubt
> UNIX was the first system to have a clock available to the user.

Read it again.

Matthew Gardiner

by **Matthew Gardine** » Sat, 15 Dec 2001 06:55:14

> With great ceremony, Joe the Aroma spoke unto the masses:

this
> >> motion:

> >> > Yawnnnn.

> >> > A click on the clock on the XP Taskbar and select "Internet Time"
and
> >> > you're all set.

> >> > Try again porter.

> >> > Add BTW how many weeks did you spend trying to figure out that
cryptic
> >> > command?

> >> > Once again Linux invents the wheel and it's square.

> >> Actually, Microsoft took that UNIX invention and added a little
> >> GUI front-end to it. Big deal. They probably bought the
> >> code from an outfit like Chameleon Clock.

> >> Chris

> >> --
> >> Living large and loving Linux!

> > errr... what did UNIX invent? Having a clock on your taskbar? I doubt
> > UNIX was the first system to have a clock available to the user.

> Read the post, oh smelly one. He said "that unix invention" and the
context
> was of setting one's computer clock to the atomic clock over the internet.

> The fact is, Bill never innovated anything. What you find in MS products
> was stolen or "borrowed" from other OS's and apps.

Or a re-invented copy of the wheel. They could have used CORBA, but no,
they developed COM, which is NOT platform indepedent. They could have used
OpenGL and improved it, however, they developed DirectX. See the cycle?

Matthew Gardiner

by **Chris Ahlstr** » Sat, 15 Dec 2001 02:46:40

Quote:> Yawnnnn.

> A click on the clock on the XP Taskbar and select "Internet Time" and
> you're all set.

> Try again porter.

> Add BTW how many weeks did you spend trying to figure out that cryptic
> command?

> Once again Linux invents the wheel and it's square.

Actually, Microsoft took that UNIX invention and added a little
GUI front-end to it. Big deal. They probably bought the
code from an outfit like Chameleon Clock.

Chris

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by **Pete Goodwi** » Sat, 15 Dec 2001 07:12:36

>>Easy, just add:-

>>"0 12 * * * /usr/sbin/rdate -s 129.6.15.28"

>>tp your root crontab, and everyday your clock will be
>>updated at midday. You may not have the "rdate"
>>program installed, or it may nor be in /usr/bin
>>as it is on my Debian system.

>>To find out if "rdate" is on your Linux box, just
>>try "locate rdate".

>>What is 129.6.15.28 ?

>>National Institute of Standards and Technology (NET-NBS)
>> 100 Bureau Drive Stop 8953
>> Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8953
>> US

>> Netname: NIST
>> Netblock: 129.6.0.0 - 129.6.255.255

> Yawnnnn.

> A click on the clock on the XP Taskbar and select "Internet Time" and
> you're all set.

> Try again porter.

> Add BTW how many weeks did you spend trying to figure out that cryptic
> command?

> Once again Linux invents the wheel and it's square.

Then why do I need XP to do this? My Windows 98 SE and ME systems can't do
this? Why has it taken so long for this sort of feature to appear in
Windows?

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----
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by **Joe the Arom** » Sat, 15 Dec 2001 04:11:33

> > Yawnnnn.

> > A click on the clock on the XP Taskbar and select "Internet Time" and
> > you're all set.

> > Try again porter.

> > Add BTW how many weeks did you spend trying to figure out that cryptic
> > command?

> > Once again Linux invents the wheel and it's square.

> Actually, Microsoft took that UNIX invention and added a little
> GUI front-end to it. Big deal. They probably bought the
> code from an outfit like Chameleon Clock.

> Chris

> --
> Living large and loving Linux!

errr... what did UNIX invent? Having a clock on your taskbar? I doubt
UNIX was the first system to have a clock available to the user.

by **Pete Goodwi** » Sat, 15 Dec 2001 07:15:29

>> >> made this motion:

>> >> > Yawnnnn.

>> >> > A click on the clock on the XP Taskbar and select "Internet
>> >> > Time" and you're all set.

>> >> > Try again porter.

>> >> > Add BTW how many weeks did you spend trying to figure out that
>> >> > cryptic command?

>> >> > Once again Linux invents the wheel and it's square.

>> >> Actually, Microsoft took that UNIX invention and added a little
>> >> GUI front-end to it. Big deal. They probably bought the
>> >> code from an outfit like Chameleon Clock.

>> >> Chris

>> >> --
>> >> Living large and loving Linux!

>> > errr... what did UNIX invent? Having a clock on your taskbar? I
>> > doubt UNIX was the first system to have a clock available to the
>> > user.

>> Read the post, oh smelly one. He said "that unix invention" and the
>> context was of setting one's computer clock to the atomic clock over
>> the internet.

>> The fact is, Bill never innovated anything. What you find in MS
>> products was stolen or "borrowed" from other OS's and apps.

> Or a re-invented copy of the wheel. They could have used CORBA, but
> no, they developed COM, which is NOT platform indepedent. They could
> have used OpenGL and improved it, however, they developed DirectX. See
> the cycle?

DirectX is more than just graphics. It includes sound and network. OpenGL
is just graphics. OpenAL is sound. What about network?

Although somewhere I read OpenGL and DirectX 8.0 were now identical in what
you do to do graphics... funny it's taken until V8.0 to get there. And XP
doesn't have OpenGL, unless a graphics card manufacturer supplies it.

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by **TuxTra** » Sat, 15 Dec 2001 05:19:55

With great ceremony, Joe the Aroma spoke unto the masses:

>> motion:

>> > Yawnnnn.

>> > A click on the clock on the XP Taskbar and select "Internet Time" and
>> > you're all set.

>> > Try again porter.

>> > Add BTW how many weeks did you spend trying to figure out that cryptic
>> > command?

>> > Once again Linux invents the wheel and it's square.

>> Actually, Microsoft took that UNIX invention and added a little
>> GUI front-end to it. Big deal. They probably bought the
>> code from an outfit like Chameleon Clock.

>> Chris

>> --
>> Living large and loving Linux!

> errr... what did UNIX invent? Having a clock on your taskbar? I doubt
> UNIX was the first system to have a clock available to the user.

Read the post, oh smelly one. He said "that unix invention" and the context
was of setting one's computer clock to the atomic clock over the internet.

The fact is, Bill never innovated anything. What you find in MS products
was stolen or "borrowed" from other OS's and apps.

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by **Bob Hau** » Sat, 15 Dec 2001 08:10:15

> On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 00:09:53 +1100, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,

> >Easy, just add:-

> >"0 12 * * * /usr/sbin/rdate -s 129.6.15.28"
> But what happens if you're not connected at midday? Wouldn't it be better
> to try every 10 minutes?

What's better is to use NTP to keep it synced at all times,
automatically.

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by **Terry Port** » Sat, 15 Dec 2001 09:16:18

On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:12:36 GMT, Pete Goodwin in article

>> Yawnnnn.

>> A click on the clock on the XP Taskbar and select "Internet Time" and
>> you're all set.

The OS you said "would never enter your house" ?

Quote:
>> Try again porter.

After you stewart.

Quote:
>> Add BTW how many weeks did you spend trying to figure out that cryptic
>> command?

Exactly 0.000992063 weeks.

Quote:>Then why do I need XP to do this? My Windows 98 SE and ME systems can't do
>this? Why has it taken so long for this sort of feature to appear in
>Windows?

It's called "controlled feature release" Pete, because like any commercial
company, Microsofts interaction with its clients exists for only one reason.

To get your money, and cfr helps that process continue.

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by **Black Drag** » Sat, 15 Dec 2001 09:35:02

>>>Easy, just add:-

>>>"0 12 * * * /usr/sbin/rdate -s 129.6.15.28"

>>>t your root crontab, and everyday your clock will be
>>>updated at midday. You may not have the "rdate"
>>>program installed, or it may nor be in /usr/bin
>>>as it is on my Debian system.

>>>To find out if "rdate" is on your Linux box, just
>>>try "locate rdate".

>>>What is 129.6.15.28 ?

>>>National Institute of Standards and Technology (NET-NBS)
>>> 100 Bureau Drive Stop 8953
>>> Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8953
>>> US

>>> Netname: NIST
>>> Netblock: 129.6.0.0 - 129.6.255.255

>> Yawnnnn.

>> A click on the clock on the XP Taskbar and select "Internet Time" and
>> you're all set.

>> Try again porter.

>> Add BTW how many weeks did you spend trying to figure out that cryptic
>> command?

>> Once again Linux invents the wheel and it's square.

> Then why do I need XP to do this? My Windows 98 SE and ME systems
> can't do this? Why has it taken so long for this sort of feature
> to appear in Windows?

This is non-sense. I've been time syncing with Windows 95, 98 an NT4
for years, NTP clients for them are readily available on the web.
(e.g.; http://home.att.net/~Tom.Horsley/ntptime.html ) Today, I have
a stratum 2 server running on my Linux machine that's synced with
two stratum 1 servers, one at nist.gov, the other at nav.mil, and
the Windows boxes on the lan sync with the Linux machine. It's all
pretty much a no brainer for anybody who wants to do it on either
OS, XP just gets you there with a bit less work.

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by **Matthew Gardine** » Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:01:14

> >> >> made this motion:

> >> >> > Yawnnnn.

> >> >> > A click on the clock on the XP Taskbar and select "Internet
> >> >> > Time" and you're all set.

> >> >> > Try again porter.

> >> >> > Add BTW how many weeks did you spend trying to figure out that
> >> >> > cryptic command?

> >> >> > Once again Linux invents the wheel and it's square.

> >> >> Actually, Microsoft took that UNIX invention and added a little
> >> >> GUI front-end to it. Big deal. They probably bought the
> >> >> code from an outfit like Chameleon Clock.

> >> >> Chris

> >> >> --
> >> >> Living large and loving Linux!

> >> > errr... what did UNIX invent? Having a clock on your taskbar? I
> >> > doubt UNIX was the first system to have a clock available to the
> >> > user.

> >> Read the post, oh smelly one. He said "that unix invention" and the
> >> context was of setting one's computer clock to the atomic clock over
> >> the internet.

> >> The fact is, Bill never innovated anything. What you find in MS
> >> products was stolen or "borrowed" from other OS's and apps.

> > Or a re-invented copy of the wheel. They could have used CORBA, but
> > no, they developed COM, which is NOT platform indepedent. They could
> > have used OpenGL and improved it, however, they developed DirectX. See
> > the cycle?

> DirectX is more than just graphics. It includes sound and network. OpenGL
> is just graphics. OpenAL is sound. What about network?

> Although somewhere I read OpenGL and DirectX 8.0 were now identical in
what
> you do to do graphics... funny it's taken until V8.0 to get there. And XP
> doesn't have OpenGL, unless a graphics card manufacturer supplies it.

Regards to DirectX, there was nothing stopping Microsoft from teaming up
with SGI etc and create a complete API.

Matthew Gardiner

by **Matthew Gardine** » Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:02:36

> On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:15:29 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy,

> >Although somewhere I read OpenGL and DirectX 8.0 were now identical in
what
> >you do to do graphics... funny it's taken until V8.0 to get there.

> What is funny about it? It is typical MS modus operandi: get something
> out there, work on it, get the next revision out slightly more usable,
> ad nauseum. There is something to be learned from their relentlessness.

> Some of MS' products were so bad, hardly anybody would use them (Windows
> 1.0, MSIE 2.0).

> >And XP doesn't have OpenGL, unless a graphics card manufacturer
> >supplies it.

> Interesting. No Java VM, no OpenGL. What other industry standards does
> XP avoid to inconvenience the user?

The most funny part are all those game companies so dependent on DirectX,
that if consumer demand goes to another platform, they're *ed.

Matthew Gardiner

by **Erik Funkenbusc** » Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:55:37

Quote:> Or a re-invented copy of the wheel. They could have used CORBA, but
no,
> they developed COM, which is NOT platform indepedent. They could have
used
> OpenGL and improved it, however, they developed DirectX. See the

cycle?

CORBA didn't exist when COM was invented, moron.

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